Will downtown Detroit be a white enclave? (Corporate Profit, Colin Powell, solutions)

[gunlover]

Originally Posted by Sharks With Lasers

Hey gunlover, I think you should take a trip to Detroit someday and see for yourself. It's actually a very "if you want to do something, you do it" type of place, which is suited for libertarian-minded people.

Have you seen the tax rates, and red tape? so it is not a place for the Libertarian-minded people.

[gunlover]

Originally Posted by Indentured Servant

Whose been running Mississippi and whose been running Minnesota?

Over what period of time, or over the last 10 plus years?

List of Mississippi Governors
David Holmes Democrat 1817-1820, 1826
George Poindexter Democrat 1820-1822
Walter Leake Democrat 1822-1825
Gerard Chittocque Brandon 1825-1826, 1826-1832
Abram Marshall Scott Democrat 1832-1833
Charles Lynch Democrat, Whig 1833, 1836-1838
Hiram George Runnels Democrat 1833-1835
John Anthony Quitman Democrat 1835-1836, 1850-1851
Alexander Gallatin McNutt Democrat 1838-1842
Tilghman Mayfield Tucker Democrat 1842-1844
Albert Gallatin Brown Democrat 1844-1848
Joseph W. Matthews Democrat 1848-1850
John Isaac Guion Democrat 1851
James Whitfield Democrat 1851-1852
Henry Stuart Foote Unionist Democrat 1852-1854
John Jones Pettus Democrat 1854, 1859-1863
John Jones McRae Democrat 1854-1857
William McWillie Democrat 1857-1859
Charles Clark Democrat 1863-1865
William Lewis Sharkey Provisional 1865
Benjamin Grubb Humphreys Democrat 1865-1868
Adelbert Ames Military/Republican 1868-1870, 1874-1876
James Lusk Alcorn Democrat 1870-1871
Ridgely Ceylon Powers Democrat 1871-1874
John Marshall Stone Democrat 1876-1882, 1890-1896
Robert Lowry Democrat 1882-1890
Anselm McLaurin Democrat 1896-1900
Andrew Houston Longino Democrat 1900-1904
James Vardaman Democrat 1904-1908
Edmond Favor Noel Democrat 1908-1912
Earl Leroy Brewer Democrat 1912-1916
Theodore Gilmore Bilbo Democrat 1916-1920, 1928-1932
Lee Maurice Russell Democrat 1920-1924
Henry Louis Whitfield Democrat 1924-1927
Dennis Herron Murphree Democrat 1927-1928, 1943-1944
Martin Sennet Conner Democrat 1932-1936
Hugh Lawson White Democrat 1936-1940, 1952-1956
Paul Burney Johnson, Sr. Democrat 1940-1943
Thomas Lowry Bailey Democrat 1944-1946
Fielding Lewis Wright Democrat 1946-1952
James Plemon Coleman Democrat 1956-1960
Ross Robert Barnett Democrat 1960-1964
Paul Burney Johnson, Jr. Democrat 1964-1968
John Bell Williams Democrat 1968-1972
William Lowe Waller Democrat 1972-1976
Charles Clifton Finch Democrat 1976-1980
William Forrest Winter Democrat 1980-1984
William A. Allain Democrat 1984-1988
Raymond Edwin Mabus Democrat 1988-1992
Daniel Kirkwood Fordice, Jr. Republican 1992-2000
David Ronald "Ronnie" Musgrove Democrat 2000-2004

State Governors of Minnesota

Name Party Years
Henry H. Sibley Democrat 1858-1860
Alexander Ramsey Republican 1860-1863
Henry A. Swift Republican 1863-1864
Stephen Miller Republican 1864-1866
William R. Marshall Republican 1866-1870
Horace Austin Republican 1870-1874
Cushman K. Davis Republican 1874-1876
John S. Pillsbury Republican 1876-1882
Lucius F. Hubbard Republican 1882-1887
Andrew R. McGill Republican 1887-1889
William R. Merriam Republican 1889-1893
Knute Nelson Republican 1893-1895
David M. Clough Republican 1895-1899
John Lind Populist Democrat/Silver Republican 1899-1901
Samuel R. Van Sant Republican 1901-1905
John A. Johnson Democrat 1905-1909
Adolph O. Eberhart Republican 1909-1915
Winfield S. Hammond Democrat 1915
J. A. A. Burnquist Republican 1915-1921
J. A. O. Preus Republican 1921-1925
Theodore Christienson Republican 1925-1931
Floyd B. Olson Farmer-Labor 1931-1936
Hjalmar Petersen Farmer-Labor 1936-1937
Elmer A. Benson Farmer-Labor 1937-1939
Harold E. Stassen Republican 1939-1943
Edward J. Thye Republican 1943-1947
Luther W. Youngdahl Republican 1947-1951
C. Elmer Anderson Republican 1951-1955
Orville L. Freeman Democrat/Farmer-Labor 1955-1961
Elmer L. Andersen Republican 1961-1963
Karl F. Rolvaag Democrat/Farmer-Labor 1963-1967
Harold LeVander Republican 1967-1971
Wendell R. Anderson Democrat/Farmer-Labor 1971-1976
Rudy Perpich Democrat/Farmer-Labor 1976-1979, 1983-1991
Al Quie Republican 1979-1983
Arne H. Carlson Republican 1991-1999
Jesse Ventura Independent 1999-2003
Tim Pawlenty Republican 2003-2011
Mark Dayton Democrat 2011-present
Haley Barbour Republican 2004-present

[gunlover]

Originally Posted by detwahDJ

It is economics and loss of manufacturing. Without oil, Texas is third world.
Report calls quality of life in Texas 'abysmal' - The Eagle: Politics
Texas on the Brink: We Can Do Better

It is Texas conservatives who want to ban "critical thinking" in their schools because it is dangerous to "faith". Conservatism itself is regressive and uncreative thinking. Have you seen any RW solutions offered for any problems we face? No, righties know what to criticize, dismantle, repeal, defund, and destroy - but nothing else. They have bottomless pocketbooks for war while complaining about "Obama's debt".
Your entire "argument" is just mindless parroting of Limbaugh.

Hey we are not the ideology that believe securing the border is somehow mean or racist, and criminals will obey gun laws.

How is Obamacare working out? Our solutions work, and that is the reason why leftist stone wall us every time.

As for "critical thinking" give parents the choice to opt out, and this only makes the case for School Vouchers that much stronger.

Aslo I was and am again nation building, and the Iraq war, but that again, it was a Bipartisan war.

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by gunlover

Hey we are not the ideology that believe securing the border is somehow mean or racist, and criminals will obey gun laws.

How is Obamacare working out? Our solutions work, and that is the reason why leftist stone wall us every time.

As for "critical thinking" give parents the choice to opt out, and this only makes the case for School Vouchers that much stronger.

Aslo I was and am again nation building, and the Iraq war, but that again, it was a Bipartisan war.

** Republicans never secured the borders when they had the power to do so. They kept it around as a valuable wedge issue like gay rights, flag burning, God in the schools, etc.
** Nobody should opt out of critical thinking. It should be taught in all schools. Every American is entitled to an education - not just what one can afford.
** The war, supported by most people, was based on trumped-up false intelligence. That's why it was "bipartisan" at first.
** Ideas?? Solutions??
Some recent Republican "solutions":
The Iraq war
Austerity
Shutting down government
Trickle-down as a jobs program

** The Obamacare failure? Check your boy Mitch McConnell's state.
Mitch McConnell's big ObamaCare conundrum - The Week

** Stonewalling?
After Stonewalling Obama's Jobs Package, Republicans Complain About GDP Growth | ThinkProgress
Obama
GOP senators block top Obama jobs initiative - CNN.com

And Detroit's problems? What is your RW solution for jobs? What is your concern about this thread topic? As I stated previously, the unimaginative right wing can only complain but do nothing else.
Why are you, the Right, and EdwardA so concerned about the "whitening" of Detroit? Seems to be just a callout to the RW racist base imo.

[things and stuff]

It is pretty ignorant to compare old timer Southern Democrats to liberal West-coast and Northern Democrats.

Totally different styles and agendas. The only thing they have in common are some big picture "chicken in every pot" talking points. Southern Democrats are very conservative socially and support the moral police state. Then of course, you've got black Democrats which run on platform based on race and are the most dysfunctional of them all. These are pretty prevalent in Mississippi and some other southern states (as well as Detroit.)

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by gunlover

Have you seen the tax rates, and red tape? so it is not a place for the Libertarian-minded people.

Despite what you seem to think, "libertarian" policies don't result in "liberty" for the average citizen. Deregulation would result in another 2008, only worse.

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by things and stuff

It is pretty ignorant to compare old timer Southern Democrats to liberal West-coast and Northern Democrats.

Totally different styles and agendas. The only thing they have in common are some big picture "chicken in every pot" talking points. Southern Democrats are very conservative socially and support the moral police state. Then of course, you've got black Democrats which run on platform based on race and are the most dysfunctional of them all. These are pretty prevalent in Mississippi and some other southern states (as well as Detroit.)

The parties switched ideology on race in the 1960s.

[things and stuff]

Originally Posted by detwahDJ

The parties switched ideology on race in the 1960s.

Socially, yes to some extent. They didn't all switch in the South. It's more complicated than that, I guess.

I grew up in Seattle and have always been liberal with a socially libertarian streak. I've seen what good Democrat run areas can do in Seattle. In many ways it is superior to any conservative areas I've been to, but..

Traveling and living in the South has been a real-eye opener. Yes, I'm a non-white liberal 2nd generation immigrant, but Southern Democrats are absolutely terrible. The black caucus democrats here in Louisiana are so backwards that I can see how they drive people to be pawns of the GOP.

My first week in Baton Rouge, there was a big news story where black politicians demanded that the city cut down the trees in undeveloped lots and parks in the black parts of town because they caused crime. Uhh what, trees caused crime??? I was blown away. They also want to ban liquor sales and all kinds of other crap. They have the most blatantly corrupt politicians (small time locals) and then re-elect them because they're black. They claim they are for diversity but most of their policies are more exclusive than anything.

From what I gather, Detroit is run by these types of idiots. Ah well.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by things and stuff

Socially, yes to some extent. They didn't all switch in the South. It's more complicated than that, I guess.

I grew up in Seattle and have always been liberal with a socially libertarian streak. I've seen what good Democrat run areas can do in Seattle. In many ways it is superior to any conservative areas I've been to, but..

Traveling and living in the South has been a real-eye opener. Yes, I'm a non-white liberal 2nd generation immigrant, but Southern Democrats are absolutely terrible. The black caucus democrats here in Louisiana are so backwards that I can see how they drive people to be pawns of the GOP.

My first week in Baton Rouge, there was a big news story where black politicians demanded that the city cut down the trees in undeveloped lots and parks in the black parts of town because they caused crime. Uhh what, trees caused crime??? I was blown away. They also want to ban liquor sales and all kinds of other crap. They have the most blatantly corrupt politicians (small time locals) and then re-elect them because they're black. They claim they are for diversity but most of their policies are more exclusive than anything.

From what I gather, Detroit is run by these types of idiots. Ah well.

Yeah, Southern politics is pretty stupid...it almost makes you wish they would have won the war so we could have simply put up a wall around them and called it good.

[gunlover]

Originally Posted by detwahDJ

** Republicans never secured the borders when they had the power to do so. They kept it around as a valuable wedge issue like gay rights, flag burning, God in the schools, etc.
** Nobody should opt out of critical thinking. It should be taught in all schools. Every American is entitled to an education - not just what one can afford.
** The war, supported by most people, was based on trumped-up false intelligence. That's why it was "bipartisan" at first.
** Ideas?? Solutions??
Some recent Republican "solutions":
The Iraq war
Austerity
Shutting down government
Trickle-down as a jobs program

** The Obamacare failure? Check your boy Mitch McConnell's state.
Mitch McConnell's big ObamaCare conundrum - The Week

** Stonewalling?
After Stonewalling Obama's Jobs Package, Republicans Complain About GDP Growth | ThinkProgress
Obama
GOP senators block top Obama jobs initiative - CNN.com

And Detroit's problems? What is your RW solution for jobs? What is your concern about this thread topic? As I stated previously, the unimaginative right wing can only complain but do nothing else.
Why are you, the Right, and EdwardA so concerned about the "whitening" of Detroit? Seems to be just a callout to the RW racist base imo.

Define critical thinking.

Also you are aware the The Iraq war was a bipartisan war, also were not the ones are ran on the principal of "compromise" and then refuse to compromise, the shut down was a bipartisan failure.