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Old 11-19-2013, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I think it's amusing that nobody has said a word about this for year after year after year, but all of the sudden, when the President is seeing a huge issue on the horizon (Obamacare collapsing), seemingly out of the blue, he gets a question about it from a lapdog reporter.

Does anyone else see this as nothing more than a diversionary tactic, to try and take some attention away from the disaster known as President Obama's signature legislation?
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Old 11-19-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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I think it's amusing that nobody has said a word about this for year after year after year, but all of the sudden, when the President is seeing a huge issue on the horizon (Obamacare collapsing), seemingly out of the blue, he gets a question about it from a lapdog reporter.

Does anyone else see this as nothing more than a diversionary tactic, to try and take some attention away from the disaster known as President Obama's signature legislation?
People have been talking about this for a few decades. In fact, there are a number of sportscasters/sportswriters who've refused to speak/write the Washington Redskin's full name for a long time now, and simply have gone on referring to the team as "Washington." It's not a political diversion.
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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"Fighting Irish" is a play on an Irish stereotype, so I can see why people may find that off-putting, but it's far from a racial slur. The two aren't equitably offensive though.

I'm going to have to disagree on the Viking/Celtic analogy. Those two names are celebratory; we don't celebrate racial slurs. We never have, and George Marshall (the well-known racist and founder of the Washington Redskins) certainly didn't... he used them like most racists do.
Still a "slur" since an ethnic group is listed by name along with some real bad habits. Tho I'm of Irish family; I DON'T find the "Fighting Irish" bad.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:01 PM
 
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OK, you have a point with the "Irish" connection. But not with anything else because white groups are different because History is only one story. There aren't two separate parallel histories in which each race has been oppressed to the same degree. It's not parallel. IN fact, oppression has been very one-sided since the Enlightenment. So that's why it's different.
In 2013 the people who oppress the Black and American Indian people in the US ain't "white"; it's the hood rats and the "blanket asses" who HATE seeing 1 of their "own" rise above the ghetto or the Rez so they try to drag them back down.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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I think it's amusing that nobody has said a word about this for year after year after year, but all of the sudden, when the President is seeing a huge issue on the horizon (Obamacare collapsing), seemingly out of the blue, he gets a question about it from a lapdog reporter.

Does anyone else see this as nothing more than a diversionary tactic, to try and take some attention away from the disaster known as President Obama's signature legislation?
I agree. Obama's mother knew this would happen the second he was born in Kenya.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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People have been talking about this for a few decades. In fact, there are a number of sportscasters/sportswriters who've refused to speak/write the Washington Redskin's full name for a long time now, and simply have gone on referring to the team as "Washington." It's not a political diversion.
And there is a precedent for changing a team's name - Stanford University dropped its Indian mascot in 1972 after discussions from native American students who felt that it was insulting to their culture and heritage.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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People have been talking about this for a few decades. In fact, there are a number of sportscasters/sportswriters who've refused to speak/write the Washington Redskin's full name for a long time now, and simply have gone on referring to the team as "Washington." It's not a political diversion.
I disagree. It's a local issue flaring up - locally.

I'm a little bit of a news junkie, and I'd never heard of any kind of movement against their name until now. I've also spent my whole life in or near two metropolises, so it's not like I'm some "redneck" out in "flyover country" who doesn't have plenty of exposure to liberal or Democrat ideas.

There's no more reason for the President to comment on this as there is for him to comment about the Zimmerman trial, but in both cases, him taking on these local issues helped him politically.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:57 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The Washington Redskins football team is changing its name.

Due to all the negativity, shame, humiliation, dissent, polarity, adversity, defiance, hatred, animosity, contempt, discrimination, division, violence, counter-productivity, ill-spirit, un-Godliness, and hostility associated with their name, they have decided to disassociate themselves from such an ill-conceived and controversial group.

From now on they will be known simply as the Redskins!

Washington Redskins are changing their name… They will be known simply as the Redskins | Young Conservatives
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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I agree. Obama's mother knew this would happen the second he was born in Kenya.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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And there is a precedent for changing a team's name - Stanford University dropped its Indian mascot in 1972 after discussions from native American students who felt that it was insulting to their culture and heritage.
Hundreds of teams at the high school and college level have dropped Indians and Redskins. Now its time for the pro-team. I predict by the time the last Tea Party Geezer who is currently on Medicare has his last major government procedure the name will be changed to something like Warriors.
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