Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I've posted this before..I follow shadowstats for all the government statistics and have been for years.
And this thread is about a scandal, not a true change in law.
A scandal that's been "out" since 2010 and still has gone nowhere?
The unemployment rate rose from 9.8 to 10.2 percent in October, and nonfarm payroll employment continued to decline (-190,000), the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. The largest job losses over the month were in con- struction, manufacturing, and retail trade. Household Survey Data In October, the number of unemployed persons increased by 558,000 to 15.7 million.The unemployment rate rose by 0.4 percentage point to 10.2 percent, the highest ratesince April 1983. Since the start of the recession in December 2007, the number of unemployed persons has risen by 8.2 million, and the unemployment rate has grown by 5.3 percentage points. (See table A-1.)
All those job losses up until October 2009 (and even beyond) were due to the Bush Economic Disaster of 2008!
Obama then managed to drop Bush's 10.2% all the way down to 7.2%
All those job losses up until October 2009 (and even beyond) were due to the Bush Economic Disaster of 2008!
Obama then managed to drop Bush's 10.2% all the way down to 7.2%
It is a waste of time to look at who is in office at the time effects are seen from previous actions. Easily since Bush Sr. you can trace the changes in economics and financing that have affected jobs in US. Doesn't matter whether it was a D or an R.
The govt shipped jobs overseas and changed financial markets to leverage all of it to fatten all the enormous investment funds. All that "Chinese" and "Japanese" debt holdings people need to really look at. This was just planned, passed off and done over time. The current UE rate is also benefitting from the big changes in LPR.
If the real number, a month before the election, had gone up 0.10, that might have been VERY significant. It did go up a tenth the following month.
If we look at why it's going down, it's not because more people are employed, it's because more people just gave up...
Again ... the number of fabricated responses was way too tiny to have any significant effect on the UE rate.
And as I previously stated, according to the NY Post article, the Census workers weren't instructed on how to fill in the answers on the fabricated responses.
So the fabricated responses theoretically could have been either "employed" or "unemployed", and therefore could have made the UE number either higher or lower.
But again, the number of these fabricated responses was so tiny that it would barely even be noticed.
Since you are copying your posts from other threads,(yes I repost my numbers that was researched) ..............
All those job losses up until October 2009 (and even beyond) were due to the Bush Economic Disaster of 2008!
Obama then managed to drop Bush's 10.2% all the way down to 7.2%
yep droped the supposed rate from 10 to 7.3 and not one job added in the mean time
it depends on who the conversation is with, i think.
u-3 is a formula, with variables
those variables are calculated by other formulas, who themselves have variables
well, if the semantics are brought up to point out semantics, i'm ok with that
but if they're brought up to obfuscate the bigger picture, i'm not
Certainly perception is everywhere. Written and verbal communication have limitations. When discussing this kind of topic though, preciseness can play a bigger role and it is very easy for this "gray" area to end up missing the mark in a dialogue.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.