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This has been promoted to talking point, it seems like. According to just about every conservative on this forum, the welfare state and government run and/or funded healthcare works in northern Europe (includes all countries north of Spain, Italy, etc. and west of Poland) because of "homogenous populations" (of white people). What the hell does that mean? What does that even have to do with anything? But, of course, I see it being touted almost everywhere by the Right. Saw it just now in the topic of Vermont going single payer. It would work there because it has a "homogenous population" (of 94% white people). They may say homogenous population and can mean a country like China, which has a homogenous population, South Korea, Japan (the classic example); but no. Homogenous is 99% used in the context of white people. Which, I've come to the conclusion that homogenous population is codeword for more than 90% white.
So, why do right-wingers make the insinuation that if something works or is going to work well, it will only be thanks to white people? I just KNOW that the right-wingers will come in here and say I'm wrong and deny my claim, then why bother making the claim in the first place and keep hammering away at it? This isn't a one time incident, this is in almost every topic that concerns healthcare and the welfare state. In other words, this is not an accident
White people dominate other people. I don't know why, it's just the way it is. So that's what happens, they seem to keep others down, either through their own talent or because they are more cliquey and exclude others. Maybe it will change someday, but even today whites and other groups just don't mix very well. And whites really don't mix with each other that great either. If not for the ethnic minorities in this country, I wonder who would be the whipping boys? Probably me, I'm mostly German and Catholic. Someone always has to bear the brunt in the white man's world I think.
This has been promoted to talking point, it seems like. According to just about every conservative on this forum, the welfare state and government run and/or funded healthcare works in northern Europe (includes all countries north of Spain, Italy, etc. and west of Poland) because of "homogenous populations" (of white people). What the hell does that mean? What does that even have to do with anything? But, of course, I see it being touted almost everywhere by the Right. Saw it just now in the topic of Vermont going single payer. It would work there because it has a "homogenous population" (of 94% white people). They may say homogenous population and can mean a country like China, which has a homogenous population, South Korea, Japan (the classic example); but no. Homogenous is 99% used in the context of white people. Which, I've come to the conclusion that homogenous population is codeword for more than 90% white.
So, why do right-wingers make the insinuation that if something works or is going to work well, it will only be thanks to white people? I just KNOW that the right-wingers will come in here and say I'm wrong and deny my claim, then why bother making the claim in the first place and keep hammering away at it? This isn't a one time incident, this is in almost every topic that concerns healthcare and the welfare state. In other words, this is not an accident
Of course to the Left everything revolves around race the fact is that humans are more or less hard wired to favor first their families, then people who share common beliefs, language etc. Like it or not these attributes are very powerful and are rarely recede.
Socialism involves sharing. Now Libs want people to not only share outside their family unit but to share with people who often don't look like them or hold the same cultural values. It's bound for failure. In a diverse country the best you can hope for is a meritocracy. Anything else is doomed to failure.
White people dominate other people. I don't know why, it's just the way it is. So that's what happens, they seem to keep others down, either through their own talent or because they are more cliquey and exclude others. Maybe it will change someday, but even today whites and other groups just don't mix very well. And whites really don't mix with each other that great either. If not for the ethnic minorities in this country, I wonder who would be the whipping boys? Probably me, I'm mostly German and Catholic. Someone always has to bear the brunt in the white man's world I think.
Please explain how they did that in Haiti, Somalia and ME countries ?
Narrow minded view of politically polarized US communities.
You have no knowledge of any of the immigration laws of any country, including your own. The US is one of the hardest countries to immigrate to in the entire world, and one of the hardest to get permanent residency in.
I'm moving to China in January, and so I've become quite well-versed in how visas, residency, etc work over there.
Outright citizenship without marriage is very difficult unless you are ethnically Chinese - even when you've married a Chinese citizen, I've read stories where people (men especially) get mired in paperwork for years and years and years before a local immigration official finally tells them that they are "not Chinese" and to be happy with their permanent residency.
As far as work/residency visas go: once you get one, practically speaking, you can continue to extend it on into infinity. People have lived in China for over a decade on six month visas that they just pay the fee (about $50) to extend, even if they've long since left their original job and their current job isn't sponsoring them. There are even people who move there and are basically self-employed as tutors, business consultants, etc who still extend it with no drama.
The process for becoming a permanent resident is about the same: prove that you bring in money, aren't a criminal, as well as married to a Chinese spouse for five years; have invested money in a Chinese company and paid your taxes for three years; or worked for four years and paid Chinese taxes for three... again, considering how easy it is to keep extending your visas and the abundance of work for English-speaking foreigners, this is pretty damned easy.
There are countries around the world where if you live and work there and are a generally decent human being, you can apply and get permanent residency with little drama after a few years. In the US, it's a much, much more difficult process...
Plenty of other cultures tackle the same issues: See Japan, perhaps the most xenophobic anti-immigrant first world nation.
Other nations where white males are not present in large numbers also don't seem to have issues with multicultural obstacles because multiple cultures aren't clamoring to be there.
The issue of diversity and whether it is good or bad is actually very contested. I took a whole course dedicated to the very subject in a very liberal college, which to this day informs my belief system on which type of multiculturalism I support (everything A-OK except where incompatible with or opposed to western pluralistic ideals).
I agree with much of this. But there are many Europeans, Brits and French included, who are growing frustrated with the dilution of their heritage and drain on social services caused by immigrants. And the immigrants most offensive to these people are of the same religion as Bin Laden.
Only when it's forced on us by a bunch of self-hating white liberals.
Thank you
White liberals preferred habitat The Gated Community, were there is no Diversity or Multiculturalism yet we all must live in high crime ares, stripped of our Gun Rights..
If you love other nations and their views, values, cultures and languages, fine, but don't import them.
If 10% of Haiti or Somalia was white, the whites would dominate.
Haiti is 5% Mulatto and they dominate does that count ?
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