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Old 11-24-2013, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Three words---annual tax increases.
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Old 11-24-2013, 09:01 PM
 
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What are you talking about? "Obamacare" is a private medical insurance framework. It's still a plethora of private medical insurance companies doing the "paying." Medicare and Medicaid were actually cut back.

Google "risk corridors" and break out of that cocoon you're living in.
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Old 11-24-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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"I was just reading this article earlier this evening and I believe it answers the question. It is a good but horrifying article.

The Scheme behind the Obamacare Fraud | National Review Online"




From the link'

".......Obama declared:
I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health-care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. . . . Everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately.
That is the Obamacare scheme.
It is a Fabian plan to move an unwilling nation, rooted in free enterprise, into Washington-controlled, fully socialized medicine. As its tentacles spread over time, the scheme (a) pushes all Americans into government markets (a metastasizing blend of Medicare, Medicaid, and “exchanges” run by state and federal agencies); (b) dictates the content of the “private” insurance product; (c) sets the price; (d) micromanages the patient access, business practices, and fees of doctors; and (e) rations medical care. Concurrently, the scheme purposely sows a financing crisis into the system, designed to explode after Leviathan has so enveloped health care, and so decimated the private medical sector, that a British- or Canadian-style “free” system — formerly unthinkable for the United States — becomes the inexorable solution.
Once you grasp that this is the scheme, the imperative to lull the public with lies makes sense. Like all swindles, Obamacare cannot work if its targeted victims figure out the endgame before it is a fait accompli."





We see it now and have for some time, maybe there is a ray of hope but not his kind.
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Old 11-24-2013, 10:09 PM
 
Location: CA
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I agree - health insurance, as we know it, may be ("necessarily" ) regulated OUT OF existence.
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Old 11-25-2013, 05:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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chronic65-
"I was just reading this article earlier this evening and I believe it answers the question. It is a good but horrifying article.

The Scheme behind the Obamacare Fraud | National Review Online"




From the link'

".......Obama declared:
I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health-care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. . . . Everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately.
That is the Obamacare scheme.
It is a Fabian plan to move an unwilling nation, rooted in free enterprise, into Washington-controlled, fully socialized medicine. As its tentacles spread over time, the scheme (a) pushes all Americans into government markets (a metastasizing blend of Medicare, Medicaid, and “exchanges” run by state and federal agencies); (b) dictates the content of the “private” insurance product; (c) sets the price; (d) micromanages the patient access, business practices, and fees of doctors; and (e) rations medical care. Concurrently, the scheme purposely sows a financing crisis into the system, designed to explode after Leviathan has so enveloped health care, and so decimated the private medical sector, that a British- or Canadian-style “free” system — formerly unthinkable for the United States — becomes the inexorable solution.
Once you grasp that this is the scheme, the imperative to lull the public with lies makes sense. Like all swindles, Obamacare cannot work if its targeted victims figure out the endgame before it is a fait accompli."

We see it now and have for some time, maybe there is a ray of hope but not his kind.
Does Obama, et al, realize that other countries that provide universal health care use very high tax rates and a regressive tax structure to pay for it? That means those who earn only modest incomes pay the highest tax rates.



Source: Other countries don’t have a "47%" - Washington Post
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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to op: they will shrug and blame it on the GOP
+1, the dem catch all....it's the repubs fault...
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