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Old 11-26-2013, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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What about the part where women can't show faces or drive cars?
That's not here in the US by law. If a woman chooses to follow those rules, on her own? Well that's what freedom is all about.

I can't help what the Saudis do in their country.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:09 AM
 
Location: TX
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In comparing the religion of Islam to religion of Christianity/Judaism in terms of what the religions teach:

The Holy Bible promotes the killing of every non-believer (among many others), and never specifically says to stop.

2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NIV - They entered into a covenant to seek - Bible Gateway

The accusation that Islam (itself) teaches to kill people for not believing is quite arguable. Here is a link:

Is Islam a Violent Religion? | MuslimMatters.org

In comparing Islam with Christianity/Judiasm in terms of justifying terrorist acts:

They are also both religions from which a percentage of members say killing innocent civilians is sometimes justified. Only difference being that in 2011, 21% of Muslim Americans said it can be justified while 52% of Jewish Americans and 58% of Christian Americans said it.

Surveys Show Muslims in Every Country Less Likely to Justify Killing Civilians than Americans and Israelis | loonwatch.com

Abdul Malik Mujahid: Muslims Are More Peaceful Than Their Neighbors

And it would seem, contrary to all popular implications, that more terrorist attacks have been committed by Jewish extremists than by Muslim extremists.

Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil Washington's Blog

According to the FBI, Jewish extremists commit more terror than Islamic extremists - BlackListedNews.com
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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I disagree with that also. It's not the religion, its the culture. Islam grows in poor, disenfranchised areas like the middle east. It's a young religion, worldwide, and just like christianity, it was much bloodier when young.

99% of practicing Islamic followers are peaceful. I think the Muslim community has as much responsibility to stop terrorism as anyone else does, if not more so
not hardly, its been around for more than 1400 years, christianity has only been around for 2000 years.
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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not hardly, its been around for more than 1400 years, christianity has only been around for 2000 years.
600 years ago. 1413. Spanish inquisition was getting ready to start, coming out of the dark ages. We burned witches, stoned the possessed, etc.

600 years is a lot in society. Islam is doing quite good for their age.
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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600 years ago. 1413. Spanish inquisition was getting ready to start, coming out of the dark ages. We burned witches, stoned the possessed, etc.

600 years is a lot in society. Islam is doing quite good for their age.
so in other words they didnt learn from the mistakes of the christians.
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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so in other words they didnt learn from the mistakes of the christians.

Did Christians learn from the Romans?
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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What about the part where women can't show faces or drive cars?
What about it? Those aren't religious constructs, but cultural.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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Did Christians learn from the Romans?
the romans were putting down a religion, not enforcing one.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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I disagree with that also. It's not the religion, its the culture. Islam grows in poor, disenfranchised areas like the middle east. It's a young religion, worldwide, and just like christianity, it was much bloodier when young.

99% of practicing Islamic followers are peaceful. I think the Muslim community has as much responsibility to stop terrorism as anyone else does, if not more so
That's BS IMO.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:12 PM
 
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I have no problem with what Angola is doing or has done. Not my country.

I don't want to ban religion here (well, i kinda secretly do...but i wouldn't act on my fantasies).

That said, it would be a much better nation if the United States was less religious. A hell of a lot better.
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