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So many lies, so many liberals, so little time....
It never changes. Their leader lies, they lie.
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Originally Posted by borregokid
What should be alarming is the staggering amount of money being paid for Medicare and a little less for Medicaid. Its like the government just keeps pumping money out with an endless supply. We spend 50 billion a year keeping Medicare recipients alive in intensive care for the last 60 days of their lives. The plug is pulled at the 60th day in many times because that's when the government stops paying.
Your tirade against Medicare and Medicaid shows a bias, and you don't seem to mind that Obamacare is all about control, and taking $$ from those who have a bit more to give it to those who have less (such as the Medicaid patients you rant about.) What happened to all the liberal proponents of free choice?
Why does the government have a right to make healthcare decisions for you? I know someone who had hip surgery in her 90's because she was in good health and her primary said she's a good candidate for it.
She walked 10 more years without pain. What gives you or anyone else the right to decide for someone whether they should have knee surgery when they're in a wheelchair. Ever consider they may be in that wheelchair because they have a bad knee? !
Obamacare was sold to us on the basis of insuring the uninsured, and caring for the underinsured. It does not do away with Medicaid. And don't get your knickers in a wad about Medicare. Obama took some $700B out of Medicare (robbed it, one might say) to fund Obamacare.
We can see now what most of us already knew: Obamacare is designed to force people into a single payer system. It's all about control. And, while it was supposed to cover some 30 or so million uninsured, it will result in some 95 million, perhaps more, losing their insurance and not being able to afford the higher premiums for less coverage. Think that's a good deal? It's fraud in every sense of the word.
You been scammed and don't even know it.
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Originally Posted by Ed from California
You are 100% right. This topic will show everyone the incredible hypocrisy of the left. We've seen it in a couple posts so far from the usual barrybots who shift their talking points on a dime just as their master has ordered.
We were right about the whole thing. They were wrong. Will they admit it? Nahhhhhhh.
They will realize they were wrong but, as you say, most will never admit it.
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn
"It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
So people should trust that a health insurance company to know far better than the government as to when is the right time to throw a terminally ill sick person out of the hospital?
Yeah, but at least you have remedies in court against the insurance company. How are you going to fight the bureaucracy?
BTW, you DO know that, prior to Obamacare there really WERE death panels, right? They we're run by insurance companies...
Thanks for that update. I thought it was really odd that Halperin didn't specifically point out in the ACA such language...and it seemed to be a talk-over situation
BTW, you DO know that, prior to Obamacare there really WERE death panels, right? They we're run by insurance companies...
Ryan care is simply the ACA for seniors eliminating Medicare and leaving seniors in the same insurance pools that the ACA has set up. Its called free choice you choose your insurance plans and you choose your tea much like Socrates. But since its all private that's all good unless it the ACA then its all bad.
So if you are a Tea Partier and over the age of 65 its time to open up the gubbermint spigots and let the dollars just flow until the day you die. Hey did you guys ever think you were hypocrites while robbing the national treasury for all your procedures?
The democrats/normal Americans also have your computer and cell phone tapped, they also have drones in the sky waiting to kill US citizens. And (I) am armed, and I am watching/listening.
All this republican childlike stupidity, and this republican insanity has to be stopped (seriously.)
Most would pay $200 for the next Sarah Palin dinner if they could figure out a way for Medicare to pay for it. Maybe Palin could be the next non-paid for ED prescription for Medicare Tea Partiers..
So if you are a Tea Partier and over the age of 65 its time to open up the gubbermint spigots and let the dollars just flow until the day you die. Hey did you guys ever think you were hypocrites while robbing the national treasury for all your procedures?
It takes a special kind of liberal, to look at a scheme where people were forced to pay all their lives into a misnamed "Trust Fund", and to note that once it came time for them to get some benefit for all they were forced to pay in, they are very determined to get that benefit back.....
.....and conclude that their determination to get it back, means that they approved of the thefts in the first place!
I can't wait until one of our resident LWNJ's mother or father will be subjected to a death panel decision to pull the plug and "take the pill". Will they still love obama the next morning?
I work in medicine and I can tell you that with enough money, medicine can keep the heart beating in a dead person for probably months!
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