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excuses excuses excuses, he gave amnesty because he supported illegal immigration, spin it anyway you want, but he was the best friend an illegal immigrant can have, he was a hollywood union leader when he was a grown man, not some young kid, and he supported banning guns many different times, only thing pro gun about him was when it came to him or radical Muslims owning them
I have no idea how old you are or what your views are and if they have changed in the past 5, 10 or 20 years. I know mine certainly have. Issues that I used to lean liberal on, I am not conservative and some visa versa. Many of us, as we age also gain a new way of thinking. Don't you think this is possible for people in their 30s and 40s, which was the case when he was a union supporter? As for the amnesty, do you know why he voted for the bill? I am guessing you do not: no, he did not support illegals and yes, he later regretted it. libs love to say he was in favor of gun control. Though this wasn't an issue when he was governor or a presidential candidate in 1980, his stand very much was pro the second amendment. Yes, he did have some second thoughts after the assignation attempt and the damage a gun did to his press secretary. He was not completely in favor of total gun control even then. So, do a little objective research.
Which serves as an example of the kind of low-information voters that put Reagan in office, eh?
nope you are missing the point: We are living in a totally different world today, many things have changed, that doesn't have anything to do with low information voters, it has to do with changing ideas. I guess, then, because people didn't agree with you, a huge majority of our voting public were mis informed, right?
You are half right. The country is different, people who reject progress and wish to keep America in the 19th Century are being replaced by people of color who reject the retrograde policies of people like Reagan (those policies do favor less than 5% of Americans, it should be noted)
America's best days may very well be ahead of us, if we can keep Republicans from setting this country ablaze before they follow the dinosaur into extinction. We must remain vigilant to this ever present menace.
The problem is, in many ways, the country is not progressing.
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nope you are missing the point: We are living in a totally different world today, many things have changed, that doesn't have anything to do with low information voters, it has to do with changing ideas. I guess, then, because people didn't agree with you, a huge majority of our voting public were mis informed, right?
No, you're missing the point, perfectly illustrated by the bolded text.
Typical self-Righteous hypocrisy.
When you like a winning candidate the voting public are geniuses, when you don't they're misinformed low information voters.
Sometimes history is kinder, and sometimes current politics clouds the issues. Give Obama 15-20 years and the extreme views that cloud people's impressions of him now, will fade, and history will be more able to reflect his true ineptitude and failures as president.
He could be remembered fondly..................just like Jimmy Carter.
Even though this thread is not about Bush/Cheney, would did they (and they alone) do that was so destructive?
If you bring up the Afghan and Iraq war, that passed through Congress. At least Bush/Cheney were not using drones.
They (GWB/Cheney) pushed through the Patriot Act. It was the most repressive attack on rights, prior to ACA (Obamacare.) Then came the NDAA, which paved the way for Obama to go rogue with drone warfare, and allowing him to kill citizens without due process.
GWB could have been a good President, had we not been attacked on 911. Obama never intended to be a good President working within confines of the Constitution. Take your pick, either choice is horrible, and both are tyrants without a doubt.
No, you're missing the point, perfectly illustrated by the bolded text.
Typical self-Righteous hypocrisy.
When you like a winning candidate the voting public are geniuses, when you don't they're misinformed low information voters.
Sour grapes, nothing more.
The fact that you emphasize self-Righteous (in consecutive posts) says a lot.
People vote for a candidate who they believe will follow through with a common agenda. Obama has more than proven he has no problem breaking just about every promise. Flying in the face of logic; people still support him, mostly because he's black. This is a form of racism in itself.
He's going to dwarf Watergate when/if the truth comes out.
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