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Old 11-29-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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Who in their right mind supports low wages? Low wage workers are a burden on the tax payer. Shouldn't everyone who works full time have the means to support himself? Not supporting this concept is akin to supporting slavery. What kind of jerk do you have to be to want full time workers to make starvation wages?
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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Profit above all else is the most important. It's gotten worse than in the old days.
Here's my question - why do some not see the connection between low wages paid by Walmart et al and federal welfare programs funded by tax dollars? Why should tax payers be burdened with paying a portion of the living expenses of other peoples employees?
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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How many threads do we need on this??

Oh, and there is no such thing as "subsidizing low wage workers." Someone APPLIES for a job. They may be OFFERED that job, with a specified compensation package. If they ACCEPT that job, then they're accepting that compensation package. If it doesn't meet their needs, then they should keep looking, increase their value in the workforce or find an additional income stream.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Because we are in a decline, a long slow decline that started way before this past recession.

The more we decline the more expansive and expensive our subsidy programs will become.
We're on the same road Greece was on only they got their first.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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Because we are in a decline, a long slow decline that started way before this past recession.

The more we decline the more expansive and expensive our subsidy programs will become.
We're on the same road Greece was on only they got their first.
I think you're right. As we slide downwards though, conservatives and liberals should agree that if your business model requires tax payer subsidies for your workers you shouldn't be in business.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I think you're right. As we slide downwards though, conservatives and liberals should agree that if your business model requires tax payer subsidies for your workers you shouldn't be in business.
I don't think any business model counts on government subsidies.

Government subsidies actually hides what is really happening in America.
Salaries are declining but the cost to buy stuff is not.
It wasn't supposed to work like that.

The more we off shored the cheaper stuff was supposed to be.
What happened though is the cost to produce went down and that went into higher profits instead.

Don't blame companies for what happened.
Government has had their hand in this doing as well.

Obamacare mandates on companies will affect workers in a bad way.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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Who in their right mind supports low wages? Low wage workers are a burden on the tax payer. Shouldn't everyone who works full time have the means to support himself? Not supporting this concept is akin to supporting slavery. What kind of jerk do you have to be to want full time workers to make starvation wages?
Are you a Marxist?
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:59 AM
 
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Because these people are disconnected from reality?

Even if a person can work 40 hours at minimum wage, there's a good chance those people are living paycheck to paycheck, and in need of assistance. Government assistance, be it state or federal is a safety net for some, but even that doesn't make up the differences entirely. Add those two factors together, and people are still living with their eyeballs just above water, one medical issue can sink them.

It's not just Walmart either, the fast food industry, the hospitality industry, anywhere basically that refuses to pay more than minimum wages is in my opinion morally corrupt. Those same businesses will scream bloody murder when asked why they don't pay more saying it's important to make a profit to provide people with jobs, a vicious circle.
You know I don't see this as a moral issue. Some industries have found a way to leverage tax payer funded subsidy programs to pay artificially low wages and increase their profits. That's just smart business I guess. As a tax payer, I'd like to join them in making a good business decision about my bottom line and insist they pay higher wages.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:59 AM
 
Location: California
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Default Why should taxpayers subsidize low wage workers?

There has always been low wage jobs, instead of people crying about it they need to pull up their pants and work harder, get a second job, a better job or do something on the side. If you raise all the wages so people can live as they want then everybody still pays for it in high prices. There will always be low wage jobs and we will always subsidize those workers it's just the way things are.
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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I don't think any business model counts on government subsidies.

Government subsidies actually hides what is really happening in America.
Salaries are declining but the cost to buy stuff is not.
It wasn't supposed to work like that.

The more we off shored the cheaper stuff was supposed to be.
What happened though is the cost to produce went down and that went into higher profits instead.

Don't blame companies for what happened.
Government has had their hand in this doing as well.

Obamacare mandates on companies will affect workers in a bad way.
I agree that the problem was created by the public and the private sector.
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