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Old 12-03-2013, 10:37 PM
 
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There are several reasons for this, with a few suggestions:

1. Kids should go to school on Saturday, at least for certain weeks.
2. They need to eliminate this ridiculous summer break where kids lose 1/3 of what they learned all year.
3. They should separate girls and boy in academic classes
4. It should be easier to expel trouble-makers
5. Parents need to be involved in their kid's education
6. They should identify kids who want to learn a technical skill and kids who are more scholastic minded, and train them accordingly (not everyone should get a 4, 5, 6 or 8 year college degree).
7. Work with unions to make it easier to get rid of poor teachers
8. Change the anti-intellectual culture of US teens.
I disagree with #3. I've been in a class where it was all males. It did nothing for learning or discipline. Half of the time, there was alot of horseplay and at times, some fighting. And this is me speaking on this as a male.

 
Old 12-04-2013, 12:33 AM
 
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scores of different races in the US:
(Asian Americans ranked only after Shanghai, China in math.)
Program for International Student Assessment (PISA): 2012 Results - Mathematics Literacy: Student Race/Ethnicity

Table M12. Average scores of U.S. 15-year-old students on PISA mathematics
literacy scale, by race/ethnicity: 2012
Race/ethnicity Average score s.e.
U.S. average 481 ** 3.6
White 506 * 3.7
Black 421 * 6.2
Hispanic 455 * 4.8
Asian 549 * 9.0
Multiracial 492 7.4
OECD average 494 *** 0.5
 
Old 12-04-2013, 12:43 AM
 
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Default PISA 2012 scores by race, in the US

For math scores, Asian Americans would have been ranked only after Shanghai China, if they formed a country.
However, black Americans are 128 points lower than them, on average.

Program for International Student Assessment (PISA): 2012 Results - Mathematics Literacy: Student Race/Ethnicity


Table M12. Average scores of U.S. 15-year-old students on PISA mathematics literacy scale, by race/ethnicity: 2012
Race/ethnicity Average score s.e.
U.S. average 481 ** 3.6
White 506 * 3.7
Black 421 * 6.2
Hispanic 455 * 4.8
Asian 549 * 9.0
Multiracial 492 7.4
OECD average 494 *** 0.5
 
Old 12-04-2013, 12:46 AM
 
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Schools in China, Japan, Korea and Hong Kong don't waste time on nonsense like creationism

A five-page clarification, released on 22 June, said that studies of the origin of life should focus on Darwinism and that "other explanations" referred to alternative theories of evolution, such as those put forth by Jean-Baptiste Lamarck and Alfred Russel Wallace.

Evolution wins out in Hong Kong curriculum dispute : Nature News
 
Old 12-04-2013, 12:50 AM
 
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We have fallen behind many 3rd world countries, like Vietnam.

US teens lag in global education rankings as Asian countries rise to the top - U.S. News

Students in the United States made scant headway on recent global achievement exams and slipped deeper in the international rankings amid fast-growing competition abroad, according to test results released Tuesday.

American teens scored below the international average in math and roughly average in science and reading, compared against dozens of other countries that participated in the 2012 Program for International Student Assessment (PISA), which was administered last fall.

Vietnam, which had its students take part in the exam for the first time, had a higher average score in math and science than the United States. Students in Shanghai — China's largest city with upwards of 20 million people — ranked best in the world, according to the test results. Students in East Asian countries and provinces came out on top, nabbing seven of the top 10 places across all three subjects
Well of course we are behind because parents never do their job! A lot of them want their kids to get something for nothing and yes, there are a few that actually push their kids, but they are few and far between.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 01:01 AM
 
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scores of different races in the US:
(Asian Americans ranked only after Shanghai, China in math.)
Program for International Student Assessment (PISA): 2012 Results - Mathematics Literacy: Student Race/Ethnicity

Table M12. Average scores of U.S. 15-year-old students on PISA mathematics
literacy scale, by race/ethnicity: 2012
Race/ethnicity Average score s.e.
U.S. average 481 ** 3.6
White 506 * 3.7
Black 421 * 6.2
Hispanic 455 * 4.8
Asian 549 * 9.0
Multiracial 492 7.4
OECD average 494 *** 0.5
If they are doing as well as students in eastern Asia, then maybe it's not the rote schooling that they blame their high test scores on. I think it's time for them to take a swig of some humble juice and put down their ethnocentrism that they criticize Hispanics of having
 
Old 12-04-2013, 01:08 AM
 
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I've heard ethnocentric whites on here say that Asian students score really high because they study test material really well, but don't have a bone of creativity in their bodies. It's funny, because even Asian-American students score the highest in the US public school system. So, what's the story there?

Another thing, too. Why does it matter if American schools allow for more creativity than Asian schools do? Don't we hear all the time on here how so-called creative people are just Democrats living in their mothers' basements mooching off her health insurance plan and/or welfare (in reference to Pelosi's you can keep your children on your insurance plan until they are 26)?
 
Old 12-04-2013, 01:19 AM
 
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Most of the Asian kids my kids interact with have very strict parents when it comes to education, to them school work comes before their social life,tv or computer games, parental rules and regulations concerning all aspects of education can be quite severe.
Asians higher scores might be generally attributable to the Asian parents attitude when it comes to their kids education.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 03:43 AM
 
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??? What's so important about math scores? How often do you actually USE your high school math in your daily life? It's important for engineers but not for most of us.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 04:11 AM
 
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??? What's so important about math scores? How often do you actually USE your high school math in your daily life? It's important for engineers but not for most of us.
You've just singlehandedly explained the bad mortgage-led financial crisis. Too many people taking out loans they had NO hope of being able to repay.
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