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Not sure how long this has been in the works, but... Rockefeller Hammers Motorola Over FirstNet
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The issue is near and dear to Rockefeller. FirstNet was proposed by the 9/11 Commission after the lack of communications cost--or at the least failed to save--lives of first responders in the Twin Towers. It was the driving force behind Rockefeller's championing of FCC spectrum auctions, most notably the broadcast incentive auction, to pay for it.
Interesting. I'm amazed truly how many do not mind surveillance of their own family, and personal property. Plus 24/7 communications.
Barry raises important points in his comments. Drones are proliferating not only as instruments of war but as tools of law enforcement and government surveillance here at home. Just as drone warfare is evading international legal standards, domestic uses of this technology are proceeding without consideration of the legal rights of citizens.
Drones are being used by dozens of police departments and federal agencies. A recent Wall Street Journal article reports increasing concerns about safety issues and privacy rights.[1] Pilots and aircraft owners are worried about drone aircraft straying into commercial flight paths. The Federal Aviation Administration is developing guidelines to regulate drone flights and integrate their use into the national air traffic control system.
The proliferation of drone systems raises concerns about government surveillance and threats to privacy. Checks and balances are certainly needed, as Barry notes, but we also need to make sure that citizens have a say in determining how these systems are used and when and where they are deployed.
There are no laws on the books, reigning in any type of surveillance. Such legislation requires precedent, which could take a decade, after peoples rights are infringed or they are wrongfully imprisoned.
How are delivery drones monitoring you, your family, or your property? Your statements reek of paranoia. You're the same person who was all up in arms when you realized satellites could take photos of earth, weren't you? How do you feel about Google Earth? Able to zoom in close enough to see what type of car you have in your driveway, oh and it's all free for public use. Your concerns here are completely unfounded, give it up, delivery drones are not spying on you.
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Can the deliveryman produce a trail of data, that is very resellable, as efficiently as a mobile electronic recording device?
The cost will go down, also. So this type of automation controls costs and introduces wonderful new revenue streams.
Your trail of data is established when you make an online purchase. Not the deliveryman nor a delivery drone is producing a data trail. Want to avoid that? Shop at brick and mortar stores.
I did not claim a whistle blower was required here. Hardly.
My mention of whistle blower here relates to detail usage of data on both the municipal and transnational side.
How it is gained and who benefits. Data is highly profitable.
So what?
Do you have some sort of point to make related to the topic?
The economics may be there for more expense items but maybe not for pizza. Instead of Amazon charging $10 for delivery & passing it on to UPS they get to bypass UPS and keep the $10 themselves. $5-$10 may be too high a cost for pizza delivery.
$5-$10 on a large pizza delivery order would save tipping the pizza guy!
Not sure how a private business now falls under the same governing of the government just because it's in a public exchange.
I like to give the benefit of doubt and acknowledge that some folks in this thread are foreigners and not too familiar with the US and our constitution. Anyone who went to elementary school in the US would have basic knowledge of our nation.
Can you say:
"destruction of private property, recorded by on board cameras"
And...
"jail time"?
Imagine....no more postal carriers, or having your lunch delivered. And the cost could be quite reasonable. I have a drone, its really amazing. My coworker has a drone aircraft that can be set to run in a preprogrammed course via GPS, and take video. The costs on these things has dropped dramatically.
So lets run some numbers from estimates based on my experience owning and operating my drone for fun.
The amazon/pizza drone. Cost $1,800. (probably much less, a simple aircraft setup can be done for under 800)
Cost in fuel/energy to deliver a pizza sized package within 3 miles-$.10-trivial really.
Deliver say...1 pizza every 10 minutes. call it 6/hr. Lets say you run them a average of 24 deliveries a day. and one can replace a driver for 4 hrs at $7.5/hr.
in 2 months it will have paid for itself.
Yeah I think this may be coming. Really depends on how well it can deliver. But I can see a pizza company having a plastic landing pad setup included with your pizza for air delivery. Along with a QR code so the drone can verify delivery address.
Its debatable wether the self driving car, or the drone delivery service will kill off pizza delivery driver as a profession.
How are delivery drones monitoring you, your family, or your property? Your statements reek of paranoia. You're the same person who was all up in arms when you realized satellites could take photos of earth, weren't you? How do you feel about Google Earth? Able to zoom in close enough to see what type of car you have in your driveway, oh and it's all free for public use. Your concerns here are completely unfounded, give it up, delivery drones are not spying on you.
Your trail of data is established when you make an online purchase. Not the deliveryman nor a delivery drone is producing a data trail.Want to avoid that? Shop at brick and mortar stores.
True. Shopping at brick and mortar is no different. You are over simplifying though.
You can have access to data, you didn't have before. In the example I mentioned, someone compared it to google satellite data. I answered why would Amazon not want their own data? You can also scale services with a multi-function device such as this. There will most definitely be some tracking.
As to public access, assuming that you are aware of all those profiting from such data or what data is being collected flies in the face of much evidence to the contrary.
You seem to be assuming that the device will be deaf, dumb and blind and that there are no future revenue plans. Companies like Amazon and Google didn't get to be where they are by thinking like that.
This is still a while from being reality. The drones are going to autonomous, but how will it avoid power lines, and especially, trees? Individual trees and branches could be quite a problem, even it descends vertically over the drop site.
Also, they have to work out a lot of details with the FAA. Since these drones will go from the distribution center to anywhere within a small radius, they'll have come up with some sort of approved flyways plan and somehow ensure they aren't a collision hazard. They're so small, aircraft won't see them til it's too late. Don't want one of these getting into a vfr flyway for planes, or into the departure or approach areas for airports. I imagine these drones are going to have to stay quite low for airspace safety reasons, which again makes wires/trees a potential problem.
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