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Protesters against and in favour of abortion clashed in front of the city Cathedral in Plaza de Mayo square. As tension mounted, the police was able to intervene and separate both groups.
An abortion is a consequence. No one wakes up in the morning thinking, "What a great day to go to the doctor and have a painful, humiliating medical procedure performed!"
The problem for conservatives is that for many women an abortion is less expensive than a pregnancy (I know, how dare a woman think about her financial well-being!) and an abortion is safer than a pregnancy (I know, how dare a woman think about her health!) and an abortion allows a woman to work (I know, why a woman should suppress that nausea and vomit from morning sickness-a misnomer for sure, since the nausea and vomiting strike at all times of the day and night, and she should schedule her doctor appointments after work because there are so many doctor's offices open at night, and she needs to learn to work through back pain, swollen feet and legs, gestational diabetes, high blood pressure, and the like! Women need to grow a pair!) and an abortion allows a woman more resources to provide for the children she already has.
But, no, the woman was so stupid she went ahead and had sex, something human beings have an innate drive and instinct to do. Women shouldn't have that instinct, right? That is the reasoning behind female genital mutilation--that women shouldn't have a human drive and instinct to want sex. Women need to control themselves. And if they don't, they are just being stupid, immoral or irresponsible.
You contradict yourself. First you say pregnancy is horrible and women know it, than you say women should be able to have sex anytime they want. Doesn't that make the woman stupid? Having sex can result in pregnancy. You make it seem it's just a innate drive one can't control. But so many now use abortion as birth control so who cares. Why not take care in the first place and not go through either?
It is assault, and would be considered that much more unanimously if this were a group religious fanatics spraying paint on a bunch of people who were peaceably standing up for the right of women to abort.
Naturally. Of course, that doesn't exonerate the behavior described in the OP, the topic.
Not assault, but unjust discrimination and sexism? Sure. I happen to think people's right to speak freely should not be tampered with, and this includes people I disagree with. It's when they physically violate someone else and/or their property, they should have the book thrown at them.
The difference is the media would cover it if it were the woman being assaulted but since it was men being assaulted and protecting a church from vandalism the media looks the other way and the police let it happen. PC rules.
If it was reversed and topless males attacked and spat on lesbians outside a gay bar - imagine the world-wide news of "homophobic rapists" attacking poor women! The Horror!!
Lol, pretty much.
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Women have been the receivers of centuries of discrimination and sexism at the hands of the Catholic Church. And the Church still holds to its discriminatory beliefs. So the frustration that fuels these protests is understandable. I think if one puts the degree of harm that the Catholic Church has done to women, and balanced it against the degree of harm that these women did, that the scales would show that the Catholic Church has done much more harm.
I think, as well, that the OP's source on this is extremely biased. As I pointed out earlier, some of this protest was about Catholics attacking a Jewish temple earlier in November when they were conducting a memorial about Kristal Nacht, and some of this protest was about the Catholic Church's continued discrimination against women, and the influence that the church wields in Argentina. It was not just about abortion.
None of this makes one iota of difference, in this case, for these women. They should be punished just as any random attacker (e.g., a man humiliating and spraying paint on a woman) would be.
And if they think otherwise, they are not even feminists. Just sexists wanting a better-sounding label.
You also have the right not to belong to the catholic church.
That would be a logical suggestion, if not for the fact that they keep sticking their noses into politics! Keep your (their) religion out of the laws, and I don't think anyone would care much about it. How many people do you hear complaining about "Jewish synagogue oppression?" Probably not many, if any, since we understand the concept of "just because we believe something, that doesn't mean everyone else has to follow our rules too." Why is this sooooo difficult for Christians/Catholics??
P.S. Why am I not surprised that janelle is once again spamming us with "LifeSiteNews" articles? Get a better source, and then maybe we can talk about this issue with FACTS - as opposed to sensationalism, misleading headlines, etc, as LSN is so apt to provide. Can you even FIND this story from a legitimate source? Let's see.
Women have been the receivers of centuries of discrimination and sexism at the hands of the Catholic Church. And the Church still holds to its discriminatory beliefs. So the frustration that fuels these protests is understandable. I think if one puts the degree of harm that the Catholic Church has done to women, and balanced it against the degree of harm that these women did, that the scales would show that the Catholic Church has done much more harm.
I think, as well, that the OP's source on this is extremely biased. As I pointed out earlier, some of this protest was about Catholics attacking a Jewish temple earlier in November when they were conducting a memorial about Kristal Nacht, and some of this protest was about the Catholic Church's continued discrimination against women, and the influence that the church wields in Argentina. It was not just about abortion.
Do you have the link to that attack?
What harm did the Church do to women? Oppose abortions? What about the female babies that are killed in abortions?
P.S. Why am I not surprised that janelle is once again spamming us with "LifeSiteNews" articles? Get a better source, and then maybe we can talk about this issue with FACTS - as opposed to sensationalism, misleading headlines, etc, as LSN is so apt to provide. Can you even FIND this story from a legitimate source? Let's see.
The web site links to other sites, sites in Argentina. Plus Life News was spot on true when they reported on Kermit Gosnell and his abortion clinic of horrors. You don't have to look if it troubles you but others want to see and be informed about the truth.
That would be a logical suggestion, if not for the fact that they keep sticking their noses into politics! Keep your (their) religion out of the laws, and I don't think anyone would care much about it. How many people do you hear complaining about "Jewish synagogue oppression?" Probably not many, if any, since we understand the concept of "just because we believe something, that doesn't mean everyone else has to follow our rules too." Why is this sooooo difficult for Christians/Catholics??
Because we live in the world. Jesus told us the world would hate us but to still go out and speak the truth.
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Nice. Being attacked by topless Argentinean women. I can think of worse things that could happen to me.
In any case, i don't know the tradition of protest in Argentina, so i'll just leave it at that. Not to mention that if the church has any standing in that country after what Argentineans have been through over the centuries, i sure as hell don't know how. Especially given the church's insouciant behavior during the Dirty War.
Wait what happened in Argentina with the church ?
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