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Old 12-05-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Conservatives are calling for a Constitutional convention?? Funny -- if one were to be called, they would be OUTRAGED by the results. The new Constitution would be much more progressive than the one that was drafted over 220 years ago. As a leftie, I'm actually all for this.
A constitutional Right to Universal Healthcare, just like every other developed industrialized country.
A constitutional Right to Privacy, to finally stop all the anti-abortion attempts to overturn Roe vs Wade.

But realistically, Glen Beck is just trollbaiting his readership (as usual). He continues to shill for the supposed "Liberty Amendments", which have zero chance of ever being adopted but are pure catnip for the RWNJ's. His advertisers must be pleased.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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A constitutional Right to Universal Healthcare,
A constitutional Right to Privacy,



You already have every right to treat yourself. The deal is forcing another individual to treat you.
You already have every right to privacy, but as we have seen over the last decade and the patriot Act and NDAA, that isn't so.

NOTE: Roe v. Wade just stated that it was not in the Constitution... that the centralized government had any say so one way or the other.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:28 AM
 
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Default Will We See a Constitutional Convention... Article V

nope


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Old 12-05-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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South Carolina and Virgina are calling for more States to join in.

Is a Constitutional Convention just around the corner?
That's a misnomer, it's not a Constitutional convention.

Article V, in part reads:

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments...
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:20 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That's a misnomer, it's not a Constitutional convention.

Article V, in part reads:

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments...


Thanks for the clarification, to further the discussion.

Amending the US Constitution can by-pass congress. Will it ever happen?
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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There will be no constitutional convention. The Constitution is alive and well; and it speaks to us every day through the federal judiciary.
Except for the conversations locked in camera.
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Thanks for the clarification, to further the discussion.

Amending the US Constitution can by-pass congress. Will it ever happen?
Nope. Won't happen in your lifetime. Or mine.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:13 AM
 
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Default So if we have a right to privacy can I stop filing IRS forms?

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A constitutional Right to Universal Healthcare, just like every other developed industrialized country.
A constitutional Right to Privacy, to finally stop all the anti-abortion attempts to overturn Roe vs Wade.

But realistically, Glen Beck is just trollbaiting his readership (as usual). He continues to shill for the supposed "Liberty Amendments", which have zero chance of ever being adopted but are pure catnip for the RWNJ's. His advertisers must be pleased.
So if we have a right to privacy can I stop filing IRS forms?
Can I refuse to participate in Nationalized Healthcare since they are requiring more personal information than a Top Secret clearance?

Or does a right to privacy only apply when certain acts of murder are carried out?

And what does abortion have to do with privacy? If you kill someone in your basement and bury the body in you backyard does this right to privacy apply or does the age of the victim somehow affect this right to privacy?


But in any event lets have the Article V Convention and see once and for all if liberty is truly dead.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:28 AM
 
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The right to privacy is a matter of judicial interpretation. There is no express provision of the Constitution for a general right of privacy (a subject much in the news today), rather it is based on the decisions of the Supreme Court in interpreting the First, Fourth, Fifth and Ninth Amendments viewed through the prism of the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment in such cases as Griswold v. Connecticut, Roe v. Wade, Cruzon v. Missouri Dept. of Health, and Lawrence v. Texas. It is the product of an liberal reading of the Constitution rather than a literal interpretation of its provisions. I can remember Judge Robert Bork (renowned constitutional scholar and foremost exponent of "Originalism" in the interpretation of the Constitution) stating that there was no constitutional right to privacy, which did not go down well in the Senate confirmation hearings for his failed nomination to the Supreme Court; albeit today Justices Scalia, Thomas and Alito, as well as Chief Justice Roberts, would be considered to have rather narrow views on the right of privacy.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They headed to Mt. Vernon, Saturday.

100 legislators from 32 states met in Virginia to discuss amendments to the U.S. Constitution.
A convention of states, as outlined in Article V of the Constitution, allows state legislatures to vote on amendments to add.

They were looking for congressional term limits and limits on federal taxation and spending.

According to Article V, two-thirds of the state legislatures, or 34 states, must approve an application for a convention to occur. State legislatures would then send delegates to the convention, with each state getting one vote on proposed amendments. For an amendment to pass and become a part of the Constitution, it would have to be approved by three-fourths, or 38, of the state legislatures.

Trying to persuade 6 very Progressive States, is the big problem.
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