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Old 12-06-2013, 06:44 AM
 
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i seriously doubt IBM would've implemented healthcare.gov for "free"

y'all must not be too familiar with companies like IBM or CSC
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Do you really wonder or are you being sarcastic? Somebody got campaign contributions or someone's relative got a job or someone got a great tip on a hot investment. You know how these things work. Everyone does.

How do you think Harry Reid magically became a multimillionaire while being a Senator?

Harry Reid got most of his money by buying up cheap land and then using his office to direct Federal spending near it to increase its value and then selling. He should be in prison right now.
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:49 AM
 
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As someone who has been pretty close to some of IBM's system development efforts, I would suggest that they are pretty rubbish at building and implementing complex application systems.
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:57 AM
 
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What i find interesting defender, is that staffers can be exempt, unions can be exempt, obamas favorite businesses can be exempt, addional lines can be added to the law after the passing of a law passed by party line vote, but the most important thing about the law, the part that must be correct to actually help people get insurance, had to be built by lowest bidder of approved contractors and cost 600 million dollars to partly be built wrong.

You got a bridge to try to sell me? Or prime swampland?

IF OBAMA wanted this built right he would have choosen who he wanted to build it and no one on the left would have complained. NO ONE on the left would say MR. PRESIDENT you cant have that company do it for free, you must pay taxpayer money to build it. That would be political suicide.
Because Federal procurement rules aren't the same thing as legislation. That's why.

I'm not defending anything. I'm simply pointing out how ridiculous it is to say that IBM could or should build the Healthcare.gov systems without having to bid. Could you imagine the uproar if they had received the contract without bidding? Or if the government broke existing contracts to allow them to do it for "free."

There are a lot of reasons to be upset with the Obama administration, but the inflexibility of procurement rules and Obama;s inability to personally write code aren't amongst those reasons.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:05 AM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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Perhaps they don't want people to see how efficiently and well it can be done.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:06 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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so there are no elected Republicans ?
As many as there are honest democrats.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:07 AM
 
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IBM was the company that helped Hitler keep track of the Jews / prisoners? RIGHT???

Oh, how history almost repeated itself, again.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:10 AM
 
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Because for once the government was smart.

Nothing is "free".

Connect proprietary hardware and load up propriety software and you've got a customer for life
Microsoft would have done the same thing.
"Smart"? Why am I not surprised that you are FOR spending a TRILLION dollars before they are through for a piece of junk.

And aren't you one of those always complaining about outsourcing. at least IBM is an AMERICAN company NOT, a CANADIAN like obama picked.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:10 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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To hear you guy's tell it, he knows everything about everything.
To hear you guys tell it, Obama is the smartest person in the world and is always correct in every aspect, so he must know everything about everything.

Pick a story and stick to it, for once.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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IBM was the company that helped Hitler keep track of the Jews / prisoners? RIGHT???

Oh, how history almost repeated itself, again.

This is about as stupid as "Hugo Boss" designed the uniforms of Hitler's Gestapo. He got the idea for the uniforms when he visited Massachusetts and liked the black uniforms of the state police.
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