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Old 12-14-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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Sorry, that just is not going to happen. Thanks to Earth's strong magnetic field, the charged particles emitted by the sun, and cosmic rays from other stars, only very rarely reach the surface of the planet. The overwhelming majority of the charged particles are stopped more than 400 miles above the surface of the planet. It would have to be an extremely strong coronal mass ejection, on the same order of the 1859 event when the Aurora Borealis was visible as far south as Rome.
You're assuming that science knows even 10% of the properties of the Sun's rays? They really don't even know how photosynthesis works. These are the same guys who thought the Earth was flat not long ago and that bloodletting would cure most illnesses.

Don't make me laugh. The Sun has a profound impact on the Earth's core temp. It has everything to do with it.

 
Old 12-14-2013, 03:37 PM
 
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You produced a link to a page, again which study on that page directly polled scientists? Anyone, just pick one.
This game you are playing is rather silly. You just can't admit you were wrong can you?
 
Old 12-14-2013, 07:40 PM
 
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This game you are playing is rather silly. You just can't admit you were wrong can you?
The only one playing a game here is you because you cannot produce a single study on the page you referenced that directly polled scientists.
 
Old 12-14-2013, 07:41 PM
 
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The only one playing a game here is you because you cannot produce a single study on the page you referenced that directly polled scientists.
I produced the link to the studies. You refused to read them.

You can lead a horse to water...

Fascinating
 
Old 12-14-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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I produced the link to the studies. You refused to read them.
I've already them a long time ago, which one are you referring too that directly polled scientists?
 
Old 12-14-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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Where are you getting this nonsense? You clearly have never looked at the original published article. Have a look:

http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf

3146 earth scientists responded and completed the survey, not 77 as you claimed.
9 questions were asked, not 2 as you claimed.
The respondents were not anonymous as you claimed.
The Doran study is not the ONLY study that showed a majority consensus as you claimed.



The factual information exposes you as either a liar or a gullible fool who believes everything they read on a denialist blog. Or both.

The way I read it, only 82% of the total respondents answered "yes" to the pertinent question:

Results show that overall, 90% of participants answered “risen” to question1and 82% answered yes to question 2.

They then take a further subset of the scientists who specialized in climate science. That subset was 5% of the total scientists who responded. Of those, 97% agreed that humans were a factor in rising temps.


Of these specialists, 96.2% (76 of 79) answered “risen” to question 1and 97.4% (75 of 77) answered yes to question 2.

So to put it in perspective, they surveyed 10,275 earth scientists. A minority (30.7%) responded. Of those, less than 5% were climate scientists. And 97% of them agree. That isn't exactly the same thing that is represented.

Further, I can probably link to recent posts where you or your partners here discredit scientists who don't specialize in "climate science". I think just recently a link was posted from a geologist who changed his mind, and the comment was "yeah, but he's not a climate scientist". You see what I did there?







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