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Old 12-05-2013, 08:34 PM
 
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I almost feel like sometimes supposed "anti-racism" indeed is bitterness towards white people. The odd thing is many of the people who espouse it are white themselves, yet feel ashamed of the sins of their ancestors.

It's just silly to me because even though white people did victimize other ethnicities, white ethnic groups have also been victims (ie the Holocaust, British persecution of the Irish) and nonwhite ethnicities have also committed genocide (the Hutus killing the Tutsis, Bantu domination of Khoisan in southern Africa). Hell the Chinook Indians even kept slaves. White people do not have a monopoly on persecution.

Some people on the Left have this concept that a member of a victimized group always has the moral upper hand no matter what. Seems like many leftists are more interested in revenge than in reconciliation and equality, which upsets me as the left is supposed to be the saner side of the spectrum.

 
Old 12-05-2013, 08:37 PM
 
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I almost feel like sometimes supposed "anti-racism" indeed is bitterness towards white people. The odd thing is many of the people who espouse it are white themselves, yet feel ashamed of the sins of their ancestors.

It's just silly to me because even though white people did victimize other ethnicities, white ethnic groups have also been victims (ie the Holocaust, British persecution of the Irish) and nonwhite ethnicities have also committed genocide (the Hutus killing the Tutsis, Bantu domination of Khoisan in southern Africa). Hell the Chinook Indians even kept slaves. White people do not have a monopoly on persecution.

Some people on the Left have this concept that a member of a victimized group always has the moral upper hand no matter what. Seems like many leftists are more interested in revenge than in reconciliation and equality, which upsets me as the left is supposed to be the saner side of the spectrum.
racism is racism, and should be called out whenever it happens.

not my fault that its mostly white people who are the ones perpetrating racism.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 08:40 PM
 
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The whites who scream racist the loudest and the most are just projecting.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 08:44 PM
 
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Even if we were all one color we would find a reason to hate. That is human nature
 
Old 12-05-2013, 08:50 PM
 
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Even if we were all one color we would find a reason to hate. That is human nature
I don't really agree - there's no "racist gene". However Dawkins does make a good case that evolution is self driven and not for the good of the species, so perhaps conflict between individuals will always be a reality on some level no matter how successful the memeplex of human rights becomes.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 08:52 PM
 
Location: WA
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I almost feel like sometimes supposed "anti-racism" indeed is bitterness towards white people. The odd thing is many of the people who espouse it are white themselves, yet feel ashamed of the sins of their ancestors.

It's just silly to me because even though white people did victimize other ethnicities, white ethnic groups have also been victims (ie the Holocaust, British persecution of the Irish) and nonwhite ethnicities have also committed genocide (the Hutus killing the Tutsis, Bantu domination of Khoisan in southern Africa). Hell the Chinook Indians even kept slaves. White people do not have a monopoly on persecution.

Some people on the Left have this concept that a member of a victimized group always has the moral upper hand no matter what. Seems like many leftists are more interested in revenge than in reconciliation and equality, which upsets me as the left is supposed to be the saner side of the spectrum.
No. We're not ashamed of what our ancestors did. We have no control over that.

We are ashamed of what is happening right now, in our own neighborhoods. We're ashamed that racial profiling is so prevalent amongst our law enforcement officials. We're ashamed that parents are still teaching their children to keep away from minorities. And we're ashamed that minorities are still underrepresented in our government and businesses.

I hope you continue on in your college studies! Good luck with finals.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 08:53 PM
 
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I don't really agree - there's no "racist gene". However Dawkins does make a good case that evolution is self driven and not for the good of the species, so perhaps conflict between individuals will always be a reality on some level no matter how successful the memeplex of human rights becomes.
Geesh, what teacher made you read The Selfish Gene? That book is so outdated.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I almost feel like sometimes supposed "anti-racism" indeed is bitterness towards white people. The odd thing is many of the people who espouse it are white themselves, yet feel ashamed of the sins of their ancestors.

It's just silly to me because even though white people did victimize other ethnicities, white ethnic groups have also been victims (ie the Holocaust, British persecution of the Irish) and nonwhite ethnicities have also committed genocide (the Hutus killing the Tutsis, Bantu domination of Khoisan in southern Africa). Hell the Chinook Indians even kept slaves. White people do not have a monopoly on persecution.

Some people on the Left have this concept that a member of a victimized group always has the moral upper hand no matter what. Seems like many leftists are more interested in revenge than in reconciliation and equality, which upsets me as the left is supposed to be the saner side of the spectrum.
Sounds like an unnecessary obsession. You should just work on just letting these thoughts not consume you.

Good luck with that.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 09:47 PM
 
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Sounds like an unnecessary obsession. You should just work on just letting these thoughts not consume you.

Good luck with that.
Who ever said I was obsessed with it? It was only an observation.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 09:59 PM
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Who ever said I was obsessed with it? It was only an observation.
Its fair to say that is your observation, but it seems to be more of an outside looking in observation rather than you actually understanding what the "left" is saying.

No one, that i have seen, is talking about the sins of their ancestors, they are talking about the things that are going on today.

I understand you have your views, but it is alot better to ask what is going on rather than just assume what is going on based on your own bias.
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