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Old 12-06-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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No, these new grads majored in useless fields, that's the problem.
That's what you want to believe. I find it hard to believe that ALL those kids majored in useless subjects. And who the hell decides what's useless? You? Shudder. Seriously, I shudder to think of what you might consider useless. I also wonder what the economic landscape might look like if universities focused the entire student body on the five disciplines most desired right now by the captains of industry. Thanks to modern data infrastructure it is known to within a few hundred the exact number of all jobs available in the U.S. The number is less than 3 million. Do the math. 3 million jobs available in all job categories. Tell me again that it really mattered what your major was in college as to why you might or might not have a job after graduation.

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Old 12-06-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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That's what you want to believe. I find it hard to believe that ALL those kids majored in useless subjects. And who the hell decides what's useless? You? Shudder. Seriously, I shudder to think of what you might consider useless. I also wonder what the economic landscape might look like if universities focused the entire student body on the five disciplines most desired right now by the captains of industry. Thanks to modern data infrastructure it is known to within a few hundred the exact number of all jobs available in the U.S. The number is less than 3 million. Do the math. 3 million jobs available in all job categories. Tell me again that it really mattered what your major was in college as to why you might or might not have a job after graduation.

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Great points. Agree. Repped! Like I always say on here, musical chairs, why people don't get that is beyond me. I guess they refuse to. There are not enough good jobs for everyone that needs or wants one. Period, end of sentence. And no amount of updating education, skills, work ethic, getting "lazy" people to do whatever... "show up on time" etc... will change this.

How we deal with this situation as a society is the million or trillion dollar question?
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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blah blah blah!


No one (capitalist to socialist) should be happy or complacent about income inequality. Income inequality, when it exists, leads to inefficiencies in the system. Dissatisfaction with the political structure, revolution, and death


Some Fox News watchers on here may think the answer (apparently) to inequality is . . .taxes, sharing the wealth, etc


You guys are freaking clueless. . .if you think that. The reality is that income equality is happening today when large companies can create monopolies, create huge banking messes, and then walk away and let everyone pay the bill. Income equality comes because big banks are "too big to fail" and people can't let the system shed the dead weight and like a fire re-grow.

You should worry about inequality, because it shows that true capitalism is being hindered by cronyism and regulation built to keep the biggest companies in power
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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No one (capitalist to socialist) should be happy or complacent about income inequality. Income inequality, when it exists, leads to inefficiencies in the system. Dissatisfaction with the political structure, revolution, and death


Some Fox News watchers on here may think the answer (apparently) to inequality is . . .taxes, sharing the wealth, etc


You guys are freaking clueless. . .if you think that. The reality is that income equality is happening today when large companies can create monopolies, create huge banking messes, and then walk away and let everyone pay the bill. Income equality comes because big banks are "too big to fail" and people can't let the system shed the dead weight and like a fire re-grow.

You should worry about inequality, because it shows that true capitalism is being hindered by cronyism and regulation built to keep the biggest companies in power
I can agree with most of this. Even without the cronyism though, plain old Capitalism has a lot to answer for. The best places to live on earth aren't Capitalist. Really. They aren't. It's not up for argument either. Your opinion of what is "best" is skewed by being white and male in the USA. The world rankings use wider and different criteria.

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Old 12-06-2013, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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The reason why capitalism works is because it punishes laziness and stupidity while rewarding initiative, invention and hard work.

Rewarding inefficiency and error simply means poverty will increase.
Anybody who's had a job out in the real world knows this is BS.

Capitalism isn't a meritocracy. The wealthiest group of people are in the finance industry. They produce nothing. Their business is money.

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Old 12-06-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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Wow, you are heading off to seattle? shocking

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Zarg broke his leg and couldn't harvest apples from the tree anymore. No one cared. Zarg starved and died. The industrious, apple-hungry cavement harvested all of the apples from the tree, cut down the trees and burned the wood to keep warm. They neglected to plant new trees. The cavemen all starved and died. Human civilization stopped dead in its tracks.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:08 PM
 
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I've heard a lot, bu tthat the big banks are now responsible for the income inequality of the country?

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No one (capitalist to socialist) should be happy or complacent about income inequality. Income inequality, when it exists, leads to inefficiencies in the system. Dissatisfaction with the political structure, revolution, and death


Some Fox News watchers on here may think the answer (apparently) to inequality is . . .taxes, sharing the wealth, etc


You guys are freaking clueless. . .if you think that. The reality is that income equality is happening today when large companies can create monopolies, create huge banking messes, and then walk away and let everyone pay the bill. Income equality comes because big banks are "too big to fail" and people can't let the system shed the dead weight and like a fire re-grow.

You should worry about inequality, because it shows that true capitalism is being hindered by cronyism and regulation built to keep the biggest companies in power
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:57 PM
 
Location: WA
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Wow, you are heading off to seattle? shocking
No, its an old user name. I've been living here for 5 years. Thanks for the interest though!
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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Well zig and zag better learn how to work together soon or both of their butts will be extinct. Working together usually happens when there is an outside threat, like another tribe tries to come in to take everything away from both. Wars do that but sad it takes war to make people work together to solve their problems.

Income inequality should only describe 2 people working at the same job doing the same amount of work but one gets paid more than the other. When did the meaning get so messed up?
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:50 PM
 
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If Zarg had any compassion he would have voluntarily shared his apples with Og. This would have preserved Og's basic human dignity and would have been fair for all. Zarg was simply a greedy capitalist.
Og had the capability to get his own apples. Og is an entitlist.
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