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Old 12-06-2013, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Austin
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According to a Cato Institute study published last year, combined expenditures for federal and state governments provided to means-tested public assistance, welfare, is about $1 Trillion a year.

There are approximately 48 million people in the U.S. with incomes at the poverty level or below.

1 Trillion dollars divided by 48 million people is about $21,000 tax dollars spent PER PERSON a year. That would be $84,000 for a family of four.

Fire the government union workers and cut the poor a monthly check instead. A family of four could live comfortably on $84,000 a year.
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:34 AM
 
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So you want to get rid of the government workers that check for eligibility and fraud?
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:37 AM
 
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Who would do the work of the government workers?
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Austin
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The war on poverty was never about helping poor people. Look at the numbers. It is about employment for government union workers.
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:46 AM
 
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The war on poverty was never about helping poor people. It is about employment for government union workers.
That conspiracy doesn't make any sense, why give money to the poor at all if it isn't about that?

Seriously, who is going to do the work of the government workers there now? Do you have an answer, or do you not understand?

At minimum for eligibility and fraud prevention.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:12 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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poverty is a by-product of laziness. I was poor growing up, and I am now lower middle class. but compared to what I had when I was young, I am rich. I am content with where I am. but I had to work hard and a lot to earn what I earned. I knew I was not going to get out of poverty by being lazy.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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The war on poverty was never about helping poor people. Look at the numbers. It is about employment for government union workers.

Democrats never want to solve a problem. They stay in power by convincing people that the problems only need more money and laws to resolve them.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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According to a Cato Institute study published last year, combined expenditures for federal and state governments provided to means-tested public assistance, welfare, is about $1 Trillion a year.

There are approximately 48 million people in the U.S. with incomes at the poverty level or below.

1 Trillion dollars divided by 48 million people is about $21,000 tax dollars spent PER PERSON a year. That would be $84,000 for a family of four.

Fire the government union workers and cut the poor a monthly check instead. A family of four could live comfortably on $84,000 a year.
So you want the northern states to fire all their teachers, firefighters and policemen ... since they are in unions...

and somehow, "magically" *poof*, the conversion of federal Medicaid / SNAP / etc. to a voucher systems would overcome the lack of police and fire in about 1/3 of the country?

i need some of what you've been smoking.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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poverty is a by-product of laziness. I was poor growing up, and I am now lower middle class. but compared to what I had when I was young, I am rich. I am content with where I am. but I had to work hard and a lot to earn what I earned. I knew I was not going to get out of poverty by being lazy.
Seeing that you grew up poor and now lower middle class, does that make you lazy? You did say poverty is a by-product of laziness.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Cato Institute HAH! I actually kind of like the idea of a $21,000 check per person as a way to increase expenditure and eliminate poverty with no other welfare programs or bureaucracy but as was mentioned you still need workers to check for fraud and to handle the work.

What is with people hating unions? If you have such a terrible job situation, maybe you should join one.
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