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Old 12-06-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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Everyone crowing about seasonally jobs are full of it. Every single year the unemployment rate has not increased after the season ends. Those jobs are here to stay.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:12 PM
 
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But what have they done that makes you skeptical in the first place ???
This goes back years.......it's just a constant stream of lies and nonsense from both parties, all in the name of protecting their party but nothing to improve the lives of Americans.

It just seems that there's ALWAYS something fishy going on with our government, regardless of which party is in power. I guess it's summed up best in that old line: "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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And how many of these jobs are full time? How many of these employed people have to work more than one part time position just to make ends meet?
Hmmmm?

Just because one is listed as "employed" does not mean it's what a normal person would consider "gainful" employment.
Example: Person counted as "employed" goes to work at his new 20 hour a week job then has to go to his other 20 hour a week job. Both pay a tad over minimum wage but hey, he's employed according to the stats.
Yippeee! Let's celebrate.
And..................there are 2 new jobs "created" that can be added to the ever-growing job market!!!
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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Everyone crowing about seasonally jobs are full of it. Every single year the unemployment rate has not increased after the season ends. Those jobs are here to stay.
So then you agree it's time to end all talk of unemployment extensions. With 7% unemployment, it's time to go back to the 26 weeks top. If you want to lay around not working for longer than that, you should find some other way to fund it.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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And how many of these jobs are full time? How many of these employed people have to work more than one part time position just to make ends meet?
Hmmmm?

Just because one is listed as "employed" does not mean it's what a normal person would consider "gainful" employment.
Example: Person counted as "employed" goes to work at his new 20 hour a week job then has to go to his other 20 hour a week job. Both pay a tad over minimum wage but hey, he's employed according to the stats.
Yippeee! Let's celebrate.
Also 200,000 new jobs doesn't quite cut it when the population is growing as fast as it is. That doesn't even cover the 200,000 newly arrived immigrants (legal and illegal) that come every month.

Obama promised 5 million new jobs. Even that isn't going to help much with his plans to add 11-30 million illegals to the legal labor force and let them start bringing in their long lost loved ones with his "family reunification" program.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:50 PM
 
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If Obama could just have another $800 billion stimulus package, he could get the UE rate down to 6.9%. Plenty of shovel ready projects waiting, right?



There are only three shovels and Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are using them to shovel their load of crap.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:05 PM
 
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So then you agree it's time to end all talk of unemployment extensions. With 7% unemployment, it's time to go back to the 26 weeks top. If you want to lay around not working for longer than that, you should find some other way to fund it.
Personally, I think we should keep the extension until 6.5%. I wouldn't be completely opposed to ending it now though. Republicans in Washington are constantly trying to derail America's economic recovery though, so the unemployed need to have some more protections.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Dept. of Labor or Bureau of Labor Statistics. U6 instead of U3. The U6 was 14% in Jan 2009 and went as high as 17%? All indicators point to a positive trend.
We'll see where it is after the Christmas shopping season, when all those temporary jobs end. Also, I heard today that almost half of the jobs created in November were government jobs.
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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Since the numbers have been improving each month the Fed should have no problem ending their infinite QE.
Let the boat float on its own.
They could also end unemployment extensions since the unemployment numbers are better.
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:27 PM
 
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We'll see where it is after the Christmas shopping season, when all those temporary jobs end. Also, I heard today that almost half of the jobs created in November were government jobs.
Firstly, I repeat my first sentence about the people crowing about "seasonal hiring". I have been on this forum for years. Year after year, the first thing the conservatives and doomsday preachers say after a good job report is "seasonal hiring!". What is really funny is that they crow about it literally at ALL TIMES OF THE YEAR! Even last February when over 300,000 jobs were created in one month you had the crows squawking about seasonal hiring.

The jobs created last month were overwhelmingly good quality ones that won't be terminated after the holidays end. And no, half the jobs created were not in government. Only 7,000 jobs created last month were in government. Of those jobs the federal government continued to shed workers but local governments picked up the slack. Over 190,000 of the jobs created were in the private sector.

You can read about it here.

Solid US Job Growth Cuts Unemployment to 7 Pct. - ABC News

And, for the seasonal hiring nonsense, refer to our unemployment rate over time.

U6 Unemployment Rate | Portal Seven

Never, ever, has seasonal hiring had a significant effect on our unemployment rate. Things like sequester and government shut downs do though. You can see those effects in the spikes that occurred in June and December of 2013.
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