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Old 12-06-2013, 05:00 PM
 
Location: west mich
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I wonder if it is possible that the liberals are finally waking up and realizing what they have done to this country.
So the Congress is liberal now?
Who crashed the economy in 2008 and allowed banks to become "too big to fail"?
Who initiated a costly and needless war to benefit their corporate base and for political capital?
The only people who can be blamed for anything are those who have had their policies in effect, meaning repuglicons.
Instead of making vacuous and ambiguous accusations, why don't you tell us what specific actions "liberals" have taken over the last six years which have "destroyed" America.
Since youcan only parrot Fox, I'll wager that you don't even know what a "liberal" is.

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Obama promised an amnesty with both elections. Someone must be living in a cave not to know that. A) He didn't say how he would pull it off but that he was going to make sure it happened.

B) The ethnocentric Hispanic agenda is to make sure that they gain political and cultural control in this country via sheer numbers much of those numbers have been attained via illegal immigration and anchor babies. Many of them just think their ethnic group should be above our immigration laws. Amnesty is not in the national interests with a scarcity of jobs and resources and many of them would continue to be a fiscal burden to our country because most are low wage earners with many dependents.
A) That is a Fox lie, and you, like any responsible American, should know how government works rather than relying on sources like Fox.
B) Another RW media "concern" - the brown people are "taking over". - wah! Over recent decades repugs did nothing about it when they had control. Why not?
RW media preys upon frightened paranoid white people and Fox, Limbaugh, Coulter, etal, have made themselves filthy rich by exploiting such dupes. Statements like yours are a prime example.
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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True. Considering that hispanics have the same very high out-of-wedlock birth rates that blacks have, and a huge craving for food stamps and Medicaid, as well as their demand for unlimited immigration of their own people, I highly doubt their disapproval has to do with any becoming conservative.

Obama hasn't yet fulfilled their demands for a very massive blanket amnesty and his promises they could start bringing in all their relatives. They're pouting is all.
He never planned on giving illegal Hispanics everything they wanted, because he knew that he alone couldn't do it, but he lead them on to believe that he and he alone could and would. He threw them crumbs to pacify them. And they will believe the next person that makes the same promises.

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Old 12-06-2013, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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You contradicted yourself with the 2 bold phrases.

Also, i never said it was something to be proud of, i simply said the person making a 0 is much different than the person making a 69.

You are to smart to be playing this dumb.
And you are twisting words - yours and mine. You went from one point below 69, to 0 to 69.
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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If the point of this post is that this is supposed to be meaningful, it is not a big deal . In fact, deja vu--can you believe it? The exact same thing happened to President Bush.

Bush Is Losing Hispanics' Support, Polls Show

Bush Loses Support Among Hispanics
Well there you go!!! Obama is following the same path as Bush!!! Except I don't recall Bush making promises to give blanket amnesty to illegals, which is the major reason for Obama's Hispanic support is dropping. Nor did Bush give them any "rights". Maybe that's why Bush lost the Hispanic support??
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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What did we do to this country ?
You are too smart to be asking such a dumb question.
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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He never planned on giving illegal Hispanics everything they wanted, because he knew that he alone couldn't do it, but he lead them on to believe that he and he alone could and would. He threw them crumbs to pacify them. And they will believe the next person that makes the same promises.
When government promises something first look how they will benefit. If the benefit then it may be accomplished. Otherwise since we have to have a government smaller government is better.
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:06 PM
 
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If the point of this post is that this is supposed to be meaningful, it is not a big deal . In fact, deja vu--can you believe it? The exact same thing happened to President Bush.

Bush Is Losing Hispanics' Support, Polls Show

Bush Loses Support Among Hispanics
The first article linked just proves my point in my post #47.
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Hispanic approval rating of ANY Republican hovering around 2%. Disapproval rating highest in history at 95+%.

Sorry Pubs. Your bigoted, anti-Hispanic ideology is not winning any fans. You're in a free fall with no end in sight, having failed to discredit this President with deceptive marketing about the ACA. Any Obama disapproval rating that you cling to doesn't change this reality.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:03 PM
 
Location: west mich
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He never planned on giving illegal Hispanics everything they wanted, because he knew that he alone couldn't do it, but he lead them on to believe that he and he alone could and would. He threw them crumbs to pacify them. And they will believe the next person that makes the same promises.
Obama promised that he would put forth an immigrations bill to present to the repub congress. So here is the current status and the repub response.
Immigration Reform Bill 2013: Obama Says Piecemeal Is A Deal

You see, the repug congress has "pulled the plug" on, and back-burnered, this "extremely important issue". Reason? They want no reform, especially if it contains a path to citizenship. Instead, utilizing more draconian measures, they want to punish the brown people whom their white base fears are "taking over".
They complain loudly about an illegal immigration "problem" only when dems are in office, then quietly keep it as a wedge issue not to be spoken of when they themselves have the power to change it. The corporate media, and especially Fox, goes right along with them hand-in-glove. No wonder y'all don't know what's going on.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:32 PM
 
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Obama promised that he would put forth an immigrations bill to present to the repub congress. So here is the current status and the repub response.
Immigration Reform Bill 2013: Obama Says Piecemeal Is A Deal

You see, the repug congress has "pulled the plug" on, and back-burnered, this "extremely important issue". Reason? They want no reform, especially if it contains a path to citizenship. Instead, utilizing more draconian measures, they want to punish the brown people whom their white base fears are "taking over".
They complain loudly about an illegal immigration "problem" only when dems are in office, then quietly keep it as a wedge issue not to be spoken of when they themselves have the power to change it. The corporate media, and especially Fox, goes right along with them hand-in-glove. No wonder y'all don't know what's going on.
From your link:
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Obama signaled his willingness to work with Republicans as high-ranking members of the House GOP insisted that they have a full plate for the remainder of the year and that a reform bill is dead in 2013.
It appears that Obama is caving in. It must hurt not to get what you want all time.

I tend to think that the republicans aren't willing to give the passport away so freely and give illegals every right that every American enjoys. They are not blocking the path to citizenship. They want conditions to that path and they want to know what Obama will do to secure the borders. Obama has already given illegals free access and a pass to many things.

If Obama had his way he would give every illegal the same rights as every American and the passport printing presses would be working at high speed to insure that every illegal is made a citizen overnight. Now that his term will be up and will be leaving the WH, he isn't pushing the immigration issue because he doesn't need ANYONEs vote. Obama lead illegals to believe that he had the power to give them want they wanted. Surprise - he doesn't have the power (and he knew it when he was lying to them).
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