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Old 12-08-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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It is tragic.

The irony is, vaccinations have been so successful in eradicating childhood pandemics, people have forgotten how rife pandemics were prior to the advent of vaccines. There is nothing "natural" about our relative freedom from child pandemics. At 78, my father is old enough to remember polio, the last great pandemic to kill large numbers of children. Forgoing vaccines would have been unthinkable in his youth.
I totally agree, my mother went to school with people crippled by polio. The entire idea of not vaccinating is an uneccesary and dangerous gamble.
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Old 12-08-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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I've never heard of anyone getting smallpox after contracting chicken pox.


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Old 12-08-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Anti-vax superstition is prevalent in Pakistan too.
Result: a resurgence of polio.

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A cleric in Pakistan's Punjab province warned that a jihad would be launched against polio vaccination teams, whose mission he labeled a Western conspiracy, frightening away a team that arrived in Muzaffargarh, according to The Express Tribune.
Sound familiar?

Nice work, anti-vaxers.

Islamic law and suspicion fuel polio resurgence
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Measles was wipe out around the late 60s. It is pretty bad since it has a 28% fatality rate. I don't think you are thinking about measles.
Measles does not have 28% morality rate, it's almost zero, about 0.2%

Measles — United States, January 1–August 24, 2013

Measles Symptoms, Causes, Treatment - What is the prognosis for measles? - MedicineNet
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Old 12-08-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I was fully vaccinated by the time I was 2. But then moved abroad and was fully vaccinated again (don't ask why because I have no idea). By the time I was 12, I'd had Measles, Rubella, and Mumps. I don't think vaccines work well on me...I might have been one of those spreading the diseases around too. Who knows...
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Old 12-08-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No. I'm thinking about measles as well all of those former childhood diseases. People in the past really didn't panic over them. Now they panic, they think measles is deadly for most people when in fact it's deadly for very few.
I asked you before what year you were born. You did not answer. If it was after 1963, you have little knowledge of measles epidemics. Even if you were born in the late 50s you really wouldn't have much knowledge of them, b/c you would have been a young child when measles was ubiquitous.

"Only" deadly for a very few. Do you have any idea what you're saying? If the death rate from the vaccine, or ANY vaccine, were as high as the death rate from measles, people would be up in arms to discontinue it.

Here are a few articles about the fears of measles going on in Great Britain.
BBC News - Swansea measles epidemic: Parents urged to vaccinate children
http://www.express.co.uk/news/health...asles-outbreak
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-warns-1854062
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Old 12-08-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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"This disease is often mild and attacks often pass unnoticed. The disease can last one to three days. Children recover more quickly than adults. Infection of the mother by Rubella virus during pregnancy can be serious; if the mother is infected within the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, the child may be born with congenital rubella syndrome (CRS), which entails a range of serious incurable illnesses. Spontaneous abortion occurs in up to 20% of cases.

Rubella is a common childhood infection that can sometimes be fatal usually with minimal systemic upset although transient arthropathy may occur in adults. Serious complications such as deterioration of the skin are very rare. Apart from the effects of transplacental infection on the developing fetus, rubella is a relatively trivial infection."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubella
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Old 12-08-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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"This disease is often mild and attacks often pass unnoticed. The disease can last one to three days. Children recover more quickly than adults. Infection of the mother by Rubella virus during pregnancy can be serious; if the mother is infected within the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, the child may be born with congenital rubella syndrome (CRS), which entails a range of serious incurable illnesses. Spontaneous abortion occurs in up to 20% of cases.

Rubella is a common childhood infection that can sometimes be fatal usually with minimal systemic upset although transient arthropathy may occur in adults. Serious complications such as deterioration of the skin are very rare. Apart from the effects of transplacental infection on the developing fetus, rubella is a relatively trivial infection."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubella
You are talking about rubella (German measles), NOT rubeola ("Hard" measles).

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/...ticlekey=21008

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Old 12-08-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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You would be 100% wrong. And who is talking conspiracies? Well besides you?
Hey if you want to trust professional liars like politicians. Go for it.
The AMA has about the same integrity as the the AKA.
Again, where do you get your information regarding vaccinations from? Who do you trust?


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My beef is with the fact that very little effort has been put into finding the true cause of autism. If 1 in every 150 people started coming down with Syphilis there would be some serious effort put in to it.
People who defend the system are exactly why Autism is an epidemic.
By the way good reading for autism. Autism a Father's Story by Bill Davis. It is not a poor me book. It is a book that really nails what someone needs to do to be a good parent of an Autistic child.
Based on what? You've said that twice without offering any follow up.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:17 PM
 
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This country, and the world, is under chemical, biological and nuclear attack by partnership of corporations and governments.

Gulf Oil Spill

Fracking

Fukishima And Others

Food Processing

Air Processing

Dirt Processing

Human Processing

Comparatively, Hitler would be a saint.
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