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View Poll Results: What policies would you enforce to fund or procure resources for Single Payer?
Raid all Health Savings Accounts 2 28.57%
Ban cash-only (i.e., concierge) doctors 2 28.57%
Flood country with H1s 3 42.86%
Create government sanctioned guild to supplement (or to replace) AMA 4 57.14%
Institute draft program to compel enlistment of .gov doctors (crossreferenced with selective service and IQ test/college grades/entrance scores) 4 57.14%
Raid all 401(k)s of amounts above $X 3 42.86%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-10-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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who are you kidding

singlepayer to cover 320 million people will cost 3-6 trillion dollars yearly

it wont save a dime...it would kill the taxpayers
Errr, then why is this so? Of course the for profits and their paid lackeys wouldn't tell you this, would they?

'Socialized' or Not, We Can Learn from the VA | RAND
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Old 12-10-2013, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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First you said 10% now you are saying 20-30%, which is it?

Also, I would want a Medicaid for all plan funded by payroll taxes. I would not buy another plan if I had Medicaid. I'm sure some people would because they are afraid of having the same benefits as someone else, but I had Medicaid when pregnant with my first child and got excellent care even though I did have a crappier room at the hospital versus when my 2nd was born lol (my room with private insurance was larger and I had a 40 inch flat screen, honestly I feel it was because they could charge my private insurer more than they could for Medicaid and did so just because. I would have been fine with a small room with a chunky TV). Basically that was the only difference.
You want the employer out of the picture so the individual would have to pay all of it.

Vermont is eyeing near 20%..11% on the employer and 8% on the employee.

If you eliminate the employer side, which you suggested in your comment then the entire tax burden falls on the worker.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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3 folks like indentured servitude. Whatever it takes for the greater good I suppose.

I wonder if it's the same 3 people who support the death penalty for doctors refusing Medicare?
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: 22 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Errr, then why is this so? Of course the for profits and their paid lackeys wouldn't tell you this, would they?

'Socialized' or Not, We Can Learn from the VA | RAND
oh please

1. its from a blog
2. its talking about the VA....which ONLY COVERS service connected...EVERYTHING ElSE IS CHARGED TO an INSURANCE
3. the FACT is that to cover 320 million people would cost 3 trillion for a 80/20 type coverage..to.. 6 trillion for a 100% (minus cosmetic) coverage

4. fact there are less than 100 million taxpayers (IRS has listed 140 tax FILERS of which only 49% have a positive tax liability (all others get back every dime)
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