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View Poll Results: What policies would you enforce to fund or procure resources for Single Payer?
Raid all Health Savings Accounts 2 28.57%
Ban cash-only (i.e., concierge) doctors 2 28.57%
Flood country with H1s 3 42.86%
Create government sanctioned guild to supplement (or to replace) AMA 4 57.14%
Institute draft program to compel enlistment of .gov doctors (crossreferenced with selective service and IQ test/college grades/entrance scores) 4 57.14%
Raid all 401(k)s of amounts above $X 3 42.86%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-09-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Let's assume you need to find money in the budget outside of taxing the rich, or you need to procure labor/resources in a more "creative" way to ensure a sufficient number of medical practitioners, just incase the greedy doctors fight back by going rogue (cash-only) or retire. What are you willing to do to make SP come true?

This poll is only meant for those who support Single Payer and are willing to allow 1 or more of these things to happen.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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And just as the last time, it provides unrealistic choices.

Like: what would you do to lower taxes that you believe is theft:

Kill all babies born to people who cant afford them
Allow people to take out hunting licenses on the homeless since they're stealing from us
Imprison and execute all those collecting food stamps

etc etc.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:02 PM
 
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Let's assume you need to find money in the budget outside of taxing the rich, or you need to procure labor/resources in a more "creative" way to ensure a sufficient number of medical practitioners, just incase the greedy doctors fight back by going rogue (cash-only) or retire. What are you willing to do to make SP come true?

This poll is only meant for those who support Single Payer and are willing to allow 1 or more of these things to happen.
Nada. Nothing.

Horrible idea, stupid beyond all measure of sanity.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I would think neo-progressives would support increasing supply to reduce salaries? Don't they believe doctors get paid too much?

The assumption is that raising taxes provides insufficient revenue. You either choose one or more of these options, or there is no SP. The last poll did have a couple of people responding and selecting an option. The previous poll I put about doctors refusing Medicare suggested that 6-7% support a gulag or death penalty as social justice for such an action.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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There you have it. We have someone supporting at least one option. Don't be shy...the poll is anonymous.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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One word...

Preposterous.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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One word...

Preposterous.
Voters disagree with you. They've already proven their hardline state in the other poll I conducted.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:28 PM
 
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There are no good choices in that poll.
And what makes anyone believe that the government is competent to run a single payer system? War on poverty? War on drugs? War on terror? Obamacare? The track record is crystal clear.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:28 PM
 
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There you have it. We have someone supporting at least one option. Don't be shy...the poll is anonymous.
But it's stupid!

The AMA represents only about 29 percent of licensed U.S. doctors.

Another fact is we were to Sovietize all doctors in the Unite States forcing them to work for free (ok, we can give them a bowl of soup per day but our largess would stop there) how much do you suppose we could lower our healthcare costs by?

The answer is slightly more than 9%. Actually I think it is 9.2% but you can look it up to make sure. Yep, jail all doctors and make them work for free from prison camps would solve all our problems.

But what if we didn't stop at doctors and Sovietized not just doctors but their receptionists, technicians, lab workers, book keeps and medical transcriptionist? In that case we could save about 20% of our total health care tab. Whoopeee do, I solved the healthcare problem in America!

So why not add "Jail all doctors and their staffs" to your stupid poll?
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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But it's stupid!

The AMA represents only about 29 percent of licensed U.S. doctors.

Another fact is we were to Sovietize all doctors in the Unite States forcing them to work for free (ok, we can give them a bowl of soup per day but our largess would stop there) how much do you suppose we could lower our healthcare costs by?

The answer is slightly more than 9%. Actually I think it is 9.2% but you can look it up to make sure. Yep, jail all doctors and make them work for free from prison camps would solve all our problems.

But what if we didn't stop at doctors and Sovietized not just doctors but their receptionists, technicians, lab workers, book keeps and medical transcriptionist? In that case we could save about 20% of our total health care tab. Whoopeee do, I solved the healthcare problem in America!

So why not add "Jail all doctors and their staffs" to your stupid poll?
Slavery gets s**t done.

The doctors would be compensated at a reasonable level. At least 2x minimum wage, and they are serving the State admirably. Plus, they would be almost completely absolved of medical malpractice cases as in other SP systems. Ambulance chaser practices would dry up.
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