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Old 12-10-2013, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Well we will have to find a solution that we both agree upon then since instead of fighting like the Cold war we should try working with them and share our scientific findings since it is about the Oil and Gas reserves and were the countries that have the largest claims and it makes sense since we can map and conduct a larger survey faster and save on time and money and compromise a bit.

Plus the UN tends to screw everyone over if it get sent to be resolved by a committee and would be a good way to improve relations and show that we can resolve issues without the U.N. stepping in and having them put their agenda in something and meddle in a issues that we are able to resolve ourselves.
I do not think it will lead to war. The issue will be decided by the U N if they will grant a claim to extend beyond the 200 mile limit. There are other countries that also can make claim beyond their territory so most likely it will be divided up. Of course there is the Santa Claus factor and if he has a nuke that could change the equation...
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Old 12-10-2013, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Canada still has to prove by science their claim.
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Old 12-10-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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Obama needs to invade as thought he declared a blue line in some speech or other;LOL.
I believe he drew another line.....all talk no action. Must be the "choom gang" way!
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Old 12-10-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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You canucks go for your pole. Leave us out of it. You take on the ruskies. Of course when you whine and cry who will come to save you???????????? USA..........USA............USA........
PFFFFFFFFFFFT!!!!!! The USA is Canada's biggest problem when it comes to Arctic claims. We tried to claim the Northwest passage as Canadian waters in order to protect the environment and for security reasons. Guess who would not recognize this reasonable and lawful claim? The USA of course. With friends like that who needs enemies?
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Old 12-10-2013, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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You canucks go for your pole. Leave us out of
it. You take on the ruskies. Of course when you whine and cry who will come to
save you???????????? USA..........USA............USA........
Who will protect us from the USA.....USA.....USA......?
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Old 12-10-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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In order to effectively claim land or property, in the end you must have the ability to forcefully reject others competing claims, this is true in most situation.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said Monday that Canada will make a claim to the North Pole, but has not finished the science around its Arctic seabed claim.
Well, before he does that, he might want to read UNCLOS, especially since your differently twisted inbred half-sisters the Brits wrote it.

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The geographic North Pole is 817 kilometres north of Alert, Nunavut, the world's northernmost settlement and home to a Canadian Forces station and Environment Canada station.
Uh-huh....

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Well we will have to find a solution that we both agree upon then since instead of fighting like the Cold war we should try working with them and share our scientific findings since it is about the Oil and Gas reserves and were the countries that have the largest claims and it makes sense since we can map and conduct a larger survey faster and save on time and money and compromise a bit.
...pursuant to Section 2, Article 3:

Every State has the right to establish the breadth of its territorial sea up to a limit not exceeding 12 nautical miles, measured from baselines determined in accordance with this Convention.

Pursuant to Article 57:

The exclusive economic zone shall not extend beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured.


Canada's claims are not legitimate.

Legally....

Mircea
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Old 12-11-2013, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In order to effectively claim land or property, in the end you must have the ability to forcefully reject others competing claims, this is true in most situation.
Yes that is true but we have a population of just under 35 Million but are the second largest country and literally have to patrol 3 oceans yet 90% of our countries population and major cities is all near the U.S. border since the Arctic circle is a harsh place to live and the cost to build the infrastructure and a good neighbour buying in bulk military deals where we need a major upgrade to to both the Airforce and Navy
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Old 12-11-2013, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Well, before he does that, he might want to read UNCLOS, especially since your differently twisted inbred half-sisters the Brits wrote it.



Uh-huh....



...pursuant to Section 2, Article 3:

Every State has the right to establish the breadth of its territorial sea up to a limit not exceeding 12 nautical miles, measured from baselines determined in accordance with this Convention.

Pursuant to Article 57:

The exclusive economic zone shall not extend beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured.

Canada's claims are not legitimate.

Legally....

Mircea
Well if we can prove the claims are valid and that Russia claims are not with detailed mapping of the region and are able to prove that it is in our territorial waters then legally it would be a legitimate claim.
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Old 12-11-2013, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Well, before he does that, he might want to read UNCLOS, especially since your differently twisted inbred half-sisters the Brits wrote it.



Uh-huh....



...pursuant to Section 2, Article 3:

Every State has the right to establish the breadth of its territorial sea up to a limit not exceeding 12 nautical miles, measured from baselines determined in accordance with this Convention.

Pursuant to Article 57:

The exclusive economic zone shall not extend beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured.

Canada's claims are not legitimate.

Legally....

Mircea
Not legally Mircea!!! The law is not static and has changed regarding this issue. That is precisely why the undersea mapping is so important. International law now recognizes the extension of undersea continental shelves as sovereign territory and has done so for some time. Just take a gander at the territory the USA is claiming off Alaska or maybe Mircea you think you should just give it to the Russians.
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