The Media Glorifying Mandela The Truth Is Mandela Was No Hero And No Saint

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Originally Posted by victimofGM

Umkhonto we Sizwe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you read the article? They only carried out sabotage, not terrorism, until long after Mandela was imprisoned.

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Originally Posted by pch1013

Surely it can't be his role in ending apartheid (a sociopolitical system which many on the ultra-right aspire) -- because FW de Klerk was equally instrumental in ending it.

Yes, while FW was not a right-wing ideologue, he was also not driven by altruism to negotiate with Mandela and the ANC. It was simple pragmatic survival. Sanctions from the world had made the apartheid regime a pariah, and the sheer demographic disadvantage pointed to the Boers' demise as dictators. FW understood this and decided to work with Mandela and the ANC rather than go to war with them. Good choice on his part.

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Originally Posted by gretsky99

As well as a lot of Africans.

Whether Africans held slaves or not is irrelevant to a discussion of slavery or slaveholders in the Americas. Right-wingers always resort to this when they've got no salient points to bring into the discussion.

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Originally Posted by lucknow

You know, I really like City Data and have been enjoying myself here for years. Some of the comments posted on this thread make me want to leave CD and never return. I know there are some really low characters here but some of the posts here have hit a new low. I just can't understand the degree of hatred so many here express almost constantly. They must themselves have really rotten little existences. What else to explain it?

Did you read those Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin threads? There were some truly vile individuals posting on them.