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Old 12-23-2013, 07:12 PM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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That is exactly my point. What Obama says and does are two different things. I've always said, never support a politician that refuses to understand that government is spending too much and that raising taxes is the answer. Never attack another group like Obama did because one day you will wake up to find out that politician thinks you have money to spare. Obama supporters refused to heed the warning and will now pay up.

Taxes can always take many forms.
Indeed. I remember listening to one of his speeches where he said,. effectively, that spending stimulates the economy, and raising taxes means the government can spend more, therefore it's good for the economy.
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Old 12-24-2013, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Oh lookie! A new poll shows support for the laughably named "Affordable Care Act" is "cratering" at 35/62:



Link: CNN poll: ObamaCare support cratering at 35/62 Hot Air

Don't fret lefties. I am ***sure*** those numbers will improve when people start losing their employer-based insurance plans and start dealing with the reality of higher premiums and much higher deductibles.

The miracle in all of this is the hubris of Obama and the Democrat Party. When you have 60% plus of the population against a bill, it needs to be repealed. These tyrants don't care one iota about what their constituencies want. We've seen that ever since they passed this debacle in the dark of night, without having read it, with no input from the minority party, and in a haze of shady kickbacks and bribes.

If I were a Democrat, I would be ashamed to admit it.
Problem is, too many Dems know how to read ...

From the poll, 35% favor the ACA, 15% don't think it is liberal enough which nets 47% Of the 47% how many want to see work done to make it better? You know, even some Repubs want to see that.
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Old 12-24-2013, 07:10 AM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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Problem is, too many Dems know how to read ...

From the poll, 35% favor the ACA, 15% don't think it is liberal enough which nets 47% Of the 47% how many want to see work done to make it better? You know, even some Repubs want to see that.
Went to a party Friday night. The Lady Obama voters there were thoroughly PO'd at Obama and his new Insurance tax program.
Everyone had increased costs, higher premiums and deductibles.
It truly is a tax and hitting hard in the pocket book.

Obama and ACA approval is just starting it's decent to the bottom. A year from now when companies have passed on their increases there will be many more millions who fully understand.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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Obama and ACA approval is just starting it's decent to the bottom. A year from now when companies have passed on their increases there will be many more millions who fully understand.
Tell them the leeches on the expanded Medicaid rolls and the subsidized thank them for their free sh*t.
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:17 PM
 
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Went to a party Friday night. The Lady Obama voters there were thoroughly PO'd at Obama and his new Insurance tax program.
Everyone had increased costs, higher premiums and deductibles.
It truly is a tax and hitting hard in the pocket book.

Obama and ACA approval is just starting it's decent to the bottom. A year from now when companies have passed on their increases there will be many more millions who fully understand.
A year from today, we're ALL going to know that Obamacare is an even bigger clusterf**k than its namesake.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:25 PM
 
Location: NJ
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With 1% the US population, Ct has enrolled 62,153. Now had other states added websites and used energy making the way to enroll as easy, based on that pace, 6.2 million nationally would have enrolled.
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Old 12-25-2013, 08:40 AM
 
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With 1% the US population, Ct has enrolled 62,153. Now had other states added websites and used energy making the way to enroll as easy, based on that pace, 6.2 million nationally would have enrolled.
Of those 62k, only 34k enrolled in private insurance; the rest entered Medicaid. That's terrific for those who'll get Medicaid coverage, not good for the insurance plan exchange.

As for the 'success' of the CT exchange site ---

"More than 2,400 Connecticut customers who bought health plans on Access Health CT were given incorrect information about their insurance plans, in one case underestimating the maximum out-of-pocket by at least $4,000." Wait times to the call center average 20 minutes.

Though I don't like being Grinchy on Christmas morn, I wish you and others would go beyond superficial headlines before touting them as success stories.
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Old 12-25-2013, 11:58 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Of those 62k, only 34k enrolled in private insurance; the rest entered Medicaid. That's terrific for those who'll get Medicaid coverage, not good for the insurance plan exchange.

As for the 'success' of the CT exchange site ---

"More than 2,400 Connecticut customers who bought health plans on Access Health CT were given incorrect information about their insurance plans, in one case underestimating the maximum out-of-pocket by at least $4,000." Wait times to the call center average 20 minutes.

Though I don't like being Grinchy on Christmas morn, I wish you and others would go beyond superficial headlines before touting them as success stories.
That 3.4 million national pace (Ct has about 1% US pop) is 3x the total national rate. 300% of national rate is certainly successful. If they simply mirror another million by the end of this quarter, they would have covered their % of pop relative to the admin's overall estimate.

While 2,400 is bad, it also represents 4% of total policies purchased.
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:04 PM
 
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Ok I have a question , would a household income of 23000 for a couple over 60, qualify for any type of subsidy under the ACA?
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Old 12-25-2013, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Ok I have a question , would a household income of 23000 for a couple over 60, qualify for any type of subsidy under the ACA?
Yes. You would have to pay up to about 4% of your income for insurance and would get a subsidy for the rest. So your cost would be less than $1000 per year.

You can get an idea from this:

Subsidy Calculator | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation
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