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Old 12-29-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Wherever I happen to be at the moment
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Well we were all told that Bush was Hitler, and Republicans want people to die, so the comparison is valid, despite you being upset.. Maybe if you'd stop liberals from making such asinine comparisons then you wouldnt here things like this.

Who's "we?" Are you really that vapidly and ridiculously partisan? With such nastiness, politics really don't matter.

By the way, there's a huge difference between "here" and "hear."
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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Though not aimed at YOU, it is nonetheless a total lie to leave out critical facts when saying something like "6 million policies cancelled".

If you turn to the back pages of checkout line rags (er...previously) you'll find ads for really REALLY cheap "health insurance" that turns out to be no coverage worth mentioning.

Cancelled.

Then you look into it further and you find that the insurance someone else has had a limit of, say, $50,000 for the life of the policy.

Cancelled.

Then you look some more and see that pre-existing conditions are not covered.

Cancelled.

Or that certain treatments are not covered.

Cancelled.

6 million policies cancelled...but...oh yeah...
Firstly those people chose that insurance by their own choice.

Secondly when you read the newspaper you hear stories like this guy:
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Cancellations at center of health care issue - News - Citizens' Voice

A healthy, middle-aged man, Steve Fountain prefers his low-costing minimal coverage health plan that covers four office visits a year and doesn't include a deductible.


Costing the Honesdale man $190 in monthly premiums, the plan covered almost all of a $22,000 bill for his recent two-day stay at a hospital.


"I've had it for four years, and it's everything I need," Fountain said. "It's perfect for my budget."
Yet, like millions of Americans, the 50-year-old received a cancellation letter this fall, notifying him that the Blue Cross Northeastern Pennsylvania plan will expire on Dec. 31 because it didn't meet the Affordable Care Act's basic requirements for a health plan.
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For instance, Fountain said if he enrolled in a gold plan via the marketplace he'd pay $360 in monthly premiums, and his hospital stay would cost him $11,600.
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:41 PM
 
Location: CA
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Next, we'll just need the A.V.O.I.D. Loan Program.....

A
id to Victims of Obamacare's Initial Deductible
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Obamacare is a tax. It's costing me about $3000 a year more.
So you have always considered your healthcare to be a tax? You do get something out of having insurance.
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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Many people will be paying a "tax" in the form of a fine when they cannot afford to buy health insurance.
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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Who's "we?" Are you really that vapidly and ridiculously partisan? With such nastiness, politics really don't matter.
Are you denying that Democrats called Bush Hitler?
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By the way, there's a huge difference between "here" and "hear."
yes mommy...
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Obamacare is the gift that will keep on giving to republicans.

Without it, the R party might have died.
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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So you have always considered your healthcare to be a tax? You do get something out of having insurance.
ACA isnt healthcare.. You'd think years after touting the benefits of it, you'd know what the hell it is by now..
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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Many people will be paying a "tax" in the form of a fine when they cannot afford to buy health insurance.
Wait 'til they are forced into ERs with the illegals and Medicaid leeches because no doctor will see them or they can't pay the deductibles.
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Republicans In Collapse as Obamacare Enrollment Skyrockets In December

The Republican plan of running against Obamacare is in freefall today as HHS announced that 975,000 people signed up for health insurance in December alone. According to the announcement from the Department of Health and Human Services,
As we continue our open enrollment campaign, we experienced a welcome surge in enrollment as millions of Americans seek access to affordable health care coverage through new Health Insurance Marketplaces nationwide. More than 1.1 million people enrolled in a qualified health plan via the Federally-facilitated Marketplace from October 1 to December 24, with more than 975,000 of those enrolling this month alone. Our HealthCare.gov enrollment nearly doubled in the days before the January 1 coverage deadline compared to the first few weeks of the month. December enrollment so far is over 7 times that of October and November. In part, this was because we met our marks on improving HealthCare.gov: the site supported 83,000 concurrent users on December 23rd alone.
The entire Republican strategy has been to discourage people from enrolling in the ACA Judging by these numbers, they have completely failed. Republicans are basing their entire 2014 and 2016 strategies on running against Obamacare. Their plan is backfiring, and they are setting themselves up for an epic backlash.
Where's the breakdown between Medicaid signups and Obamacare sign ups?

The way I see it, they need 6 million (ones that were dropped) plus what they originally needed. And where's the breakdown of the healthy young people because they are expected to pay for the Not So Affordable Healthcare Act because if they don't, that health insurance becomes even more expensive next year.

And coming up, let's see how many business people drop their employees this year.
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