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Old 12-10-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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Pretty good article highlighting a recent speech given by Pope Francis during a mass. He's quickly become a controversial Pope over his positions on Income Inequality, Gay Rights/Acceptance, and Abortion.


“In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements. The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”

Pope Francis Says Right-Wing Christians Have An Illness
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:48 AM
 
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I like this Pope. I may not agree with everything he says, but he's the best I've seen in recent memory that challenges the anti-Christ way most Christians live today.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:50 AM
 
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I like this Pope. I may not agree with everything he says, but he's the best I've seen in recent memory that challenges the anti-Christ way most Christians live today.
You like him because he espouses leftwing rhetoric. That's all.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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Right....because the church doesn't have an "ideology?"
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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You like him because he espouses leftwing rhetoric. That's all.
What are your spiritual positions on the topics he brings up?
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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You like him because he espouses leftwing rhetoric. That's all.
And you don't like him because he doesn't espouse right-wing rhetoric. What a surprise there. He is right though. Too many Christians, especially in this country, are way too tied to the ideology of primitive accumulation
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Old 12-10-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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You like him because he espouses leftwing rhetoric. That's all.
And yet he's a staunch conservative. Nothing about his views are inherently left wing. I like him, because his views are in line with Christ. Fundamentalism is not.
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Old 12-10-2013, 12:04 PM
 
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The Republicans are having a problem with the Pope.
The issue is that he is teaching the Catholic vision of Christ. The beliefs that the church teaches,I still remember my CCD days.
In the age of Corporate control of the Republican party,they do not want the idea of helping people to become the norm. They will be looking to push a wedge between con.catholics and the Pope. You will see more of the comments here on CD.
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Old 12-10-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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And yet he's a staunch conservative. Nothing about his views are inherently left wing. I like him, because his views are in line with Christ. Fundamentalism is not.
He is a staunch conservative. I'm exactly like the Pope in my views. I don't approve of gay marriage, gay lifestyle, abortion, atheism, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna get on top of my soapbox and declare I am holier than thou and you're all going to hell. First of all, that's not my decision to make. Second, you can disapprove of certain things without hating the people who practice what you oppose. As for the economic side of the Pope, it's very shameful that to be Christian means to be on the side of primitive accumulation. Siding with the rich and to hell with the poor is not going to get you into Heaven. Private charities cannot completely absorb the costs of the poor.
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Old 12-10-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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And yet he's a staunch conservative. Nothing about his views are inherently left wing. I like him, because his views are in line with Christ. Fundamentalism is not.
That's why I like him. He's truly a uniter and can hopefully reign in some of the fringe that's taken control of the GOP.
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