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Old 12-12-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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Even Pelosi is saying that it's a lousy deal. For different reasons than those Boehner complains about but it seems the agreement is that it's a lousy deal and the bad guys are the ones not wanting to vote for a bad deal?

Pelosi on budget deal: ‘Embrace the suck’ | New York Post
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Even Pelosi is saying that it's a lousy deal. For different reasons than those Boehner complains about but it seems the agreement is that it's a lousy deal and the bad guys are the ones not wanting to vote for a bad deal?

Pelosi on budget deal: ‘Embrace the suck’ | New York Post
A politician, I don't remember who, once said, "The definition of a good political compromise is when both sides leave the table unhappy". I guess he or she means that nobody got everything they wanted but each got something to take back to their constituents.

I see more going on behind the scene with this deal and Boehner's jab at the TP. The budget deal is good through 2015. That means that both sides have agreed to keep financial issues off the table during the next election cycle. It also defangs the tea party as their only real power was holding the purse strings in the house. Now they can't gum up the workings of the government with every little financial matter.
I also believe that this is the first shot across the bow to the Tea Party by the mainstream moderate republicans. To me it signals that the republican party is going to pass on financing and supporting the more radical conservatives this coming primary and will be very proactive in supporting the moderate republican candidates. A mixed blessing for Democrats.
This budget deal signals a truce and compromise between the republican party and the Obama administration.

that's my thoughts, anyway.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: North America
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Looks like the speaker of the house finally grew a pair.

Let's see if it will last.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Let's face it.. we need more right wingers because the whole democratic party is so left wing.. The tug of war is between the left wing and the moderate republicans.. fact is the left wing pulls so far left we need the small right wing fringe to counter the tug of the socialists of today.
The moderates will go more left but the only hope for our nation is to pull far right to get out of the socialists grasp on our nation. This is war between those who believe in the founding fathers and the Marxists communists who have infiltrated slowing and turned the democratic party into a socialist only thinking crowd. Obama is the most left wing socialist ever to hold the office of president. We need MORE right wing republicans to balance out what the left is doing to this nation.
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Old 12-12-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Rubio should just disappear. He screwed himself royally with the immigration reform bill. He couldn't distance himself from that box of dynamite if he had a 10 hour head start! His opinion means absolutely nothing from this point forward.
Rubio's an idiot.

Boehner's liver may soon need replacing, he looks like he has hypertension and atherosclerosis.
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:00 PM
 
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A politician, I don't remember who, once said, "The definition of a good political compromise is when both sides leave the table unhappy". I guess he or she means that nobody got everything they wanted but each got something to take back to their constituents.

I see more going on behind the scene with this deal and Boehner's jab at the TP. The budget deal is good through 2015. That means that both sides have agreed to keep financial issues off the table during the next election cycle. It also defangs the tea party as their only real power was holding the purse strings in the house. Now they can't gum up the workings of the government with every little financial matter.
I also believe that this is the first shot across the bow to the Tea Party by the mainstream moderate republicans. To me it signals that the republican party is going to pass on financing and supporting the more radical conservatives this coming primary and will be very proactive in supporting the moderate republican candidates. A mixed blessing for Democrats.
This budget deal signals a truce and compromise between the republican party and the Obama administration.

that's my thoughts, anyway.
I agree with the mixed blessing part. Everyone loves kicking the Tea Party around for the bunch of hypocrites that they are. They will still be around but they are going to be irrelevant in almost every state. With the problems with the ACA it would be nice if the Tea Party hangs around for another year. It will be kind of like the last Glenn Beck Rally. The Republicans will tell the Tea Partiers to shutup and hide their signs and all their anti-Obama costumes. They still need their votes though.
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Let's face it.. we need more right wingers because the whole democratic party is so left wing.. The tug of war is between the left wing and the moderate republicans.. fact is the left wing pulls so far left we need the small right wing fringe to counter the tug of the socialists of today.
The moderates will go more left but the only hope for our nation is to pull far right to get out of the socialists grasp on our nation. This is war between those who believe in the founding fathers and the Marxists communists who have infiltrated slowing and turned the democratic party into a socialist only thinking crowd. Obama is the most left wing socialist ever to hold the office of president. We need MORE right wing republicans to balance out what the left is doing to this nation.
Exactly. The problem with the Republican party (especially those in Congress) is not that they are too far to the right; the problem is that there are too few who are far right-wingers.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Boehner is going to get Primarried in 2014.
Ted Cruz is going to be the President Jan. 2017
Boehner understands damage control and the word 'sequestration' will not be heard. Things always balance. The embarising uproar of a bunch of spoiled children will be balanced with a small blip on the radar that is hardly noticed.

Cruz needs to fill out his application to Fox. If they'd still take him. I think the public has had it fill of zelous revolutionaries.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Exactly. The problem with the Republican party (especially those in Congress) is not that they are too far to the right; the problem is that there are too few who are far right-wingers.
You must be kidding.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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A politician, I don't remember who, once said, "The definition of a good political compromise is when both sides leave the table unhappy". I guess he or she means that nobody got everything they wanted but each got something to take back to their constituents.

I see more going on behind the scene with this deal and Boehner's jab at the TP. The budget deal is good through 2015. That means that both sides have agreed to keep financial issues off the table during the next election cycle. It also defangs the tea party as their only real power was holding the purse strings in the house. Now they can't gum up the workings of the government with every little financial matter.
I also believe that this is the first shot across the bow to the Tea Party by the mainstream moderate republicans. To me it signals that the republican party is going to pass on financing and supporting the more radical conservatives this coming primary and will be very proactive in supporting the moderate republican candidates. A mixed blessing for Democrats.
This budget deal signals a truce and compromise between the republican party and the Obama administration.

that's my thoughts, anyway.
Just a clarification here ….. this 'Budget deal' does not go thru 2015. It does include the Fiscal Year Budget for 2014 (deadline for this was October 1, 2013) and the Fiscal Year Budget for 2015 (deadline is October 1, 2014). This will get us past the 2014 Mid-Term Election and that is important. It's also very important that Business across the USA can actually use this time to plan for the future. It will give them a very small window of "certainty"

As usual …… we actually have no idea what the Grassroots Tea Party think about all of this. There are a variety of 'groups' that claim to speak for the Nationwide Neighborhood Tea Party, but there is STILL no one voice that speaks for them all.

I don't have a lot of sympathy with anyone who says "I can't support this because there is no Balanced Budget", or "I can't support this because XYZ has to pay a bit more into a Pension Plan", or "I can't support this because "they want to take away my Jelly Bean Jar" (OK, that last one was a joke, but they are acting like this is a Cartoon Comedy). Anyone on either side that takes the viewpoint that "if I don't get EVERYTHING I demand ….. then, I'm taking my marbles and going home …. so there stompyfoot tantrum is a total, uninformed idiot. Period

I've come to believe that the Far Right is trying to copy the Far Left ….. talk to the people like the are Idiots and too dumb to understand the intricacies of how Government actually works. They all talk in dumbed down "Sound Bites", because they believe that's all that their constituency can understand.

I'm very sure that I totally disagree with something as important as "Social Security Reform, Medicare Reform, Immigration Reform, TAX Reform or Balance Budget" to be tacked on to a 'Budget agreement' is WRONG,WRONG,WRONG. Haven't we learned our lesson about these major issues being tacked on to "Comprehensive" Bills that nobody either reads OR understands?
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