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Old 12-14-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I'm just curious - would it be okay if people who are poor or uneducated minorities, or "dependent on government handouts" (a wholly overused statement to condemn poor people) were also Libertarians? What about single gay people? Or is it only married gay people that might be interested in this brand of Libertarianism?

For me, I would think that if you want to get more people interested in your platform, we should stop categorizing people into certain interest groups. There is too much tribalism.
I think single people of any group, generally speaking, become more fiscally conservative after they get married, have a family and move out of big cities.
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think single people of any group, generally speaking, become more fiscally conservative after they get married, have a family and move out of big cities.
That is quite a generalization on married people.
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Old 12-14-2013, 02:00 PM
 
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I want to get married and have a family some day!

I would be very much in favor of allowing our kids more choices when it comes to schools. I plan to always live close to the city and neighborhoods can be tough. I would homeschool before I sent my child to a bad school.

I am very pro ACA and believe affordable access to healthcare is a human right. I won't support a candidate that does not believe the same.
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Old 12-15-2013, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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That is quite a generalization on married people.
It's expensive to raise a family in a big city. I never thought the move to suburbia from big cities was white flight. I thought it had more to do with affordability and having a yard. The median monthly rent in Manhattan is currently $3,100. The current median monthly rent in Brooklyn is $2,800. The taxes are high. The cost of living is high. It's a matter of where you get a better bang for your buck. With that comes the idea that you'd rather keep more of the money you've earned. So, my guess was more married gays with families become fiscally conservative compared to when they were single just like straight ones.

I'd actually like to see a survey on married gays with families to see if they are as fiscally conservative as their straight counterparts. I'm betting they are.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I can't wait to see which partner they screw in gay divorce.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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I think single people of any group, generally speaking, become more fiscally conservative after they get married, have a family and move out of big cities.
I think there are a lot of generalizations being made here. Single people don't all live in big cities, and not all married people with families live in the suburbs.

In addition to that, it's much less expensive being single, and much easier to be idealistic about your political beliefs. For example, a single person making 12 dollars an hour, 40 hours a week, will probably be okay financially, and might even have some money left over to take a trip or something. That's not going to fly with a family of four.

Most of the libertarians that I know heavily skew young and male, and often single. You might even notice that on this forum.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's expensive to raise a family in a big city. I never thought the move to suburbia from big cities was white flight. I thought it had more to do with affordability and having a yard. The median monthly rent in Manhattan is currently $3,100. The current median monthly rent in Brooklyn is $2,800. The taxes are high. The cost of living is high. It's a matter of where you get a better bang for your buck. With that comes the idea that you'd rather keep more of the money you've earned. So, my guess was more married gays with families become fiscally conservative compared to when they were single just like straight ones.

I'd actually like to see a survey on married gays with families to see if they are as fiscally conservative as their straight counterparts. I'm betting they are.
Yep I see popular neighborhoods in Brooklyn being flooding with parents, so not everyone having children are fleeing the cities. Heck you can find kids growing up all over NYC. I know my wife and I are planning a move back to Oregon where we will one day raise our child in the city of Portland, much like many other people are doing.

Are there people moving to the suburbs to have families? Sure, there are also people staying put in the cities and having families as well.
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Old 12-15-2013, 01:41 PM
 
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I think single people of any group, generally speaking, become more fiscally conservative after they get married, have a family and move out of big cities.
One more reason for me not to get married & have kids.
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