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Old 12-13-2013, 06:15 AM
 
Location: NC
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California has only added 150,000 taxpayers to their tax rolls over the last 10 years, but has seen a population increase of 11million or so. Immigrants coming for benefits is a big chunk of that. Are they contributing to the tax base? Nope.
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Old 12-13-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Just-released Dept of Finance estimates show California enjoying its fastest growth since 2004. Population is now 38.2 million:

LA Times

Significantly, the new growth includes a net migration INTO California from other states, reversing a decade-long trend.

So much for the "everybody is fleeing California" BS.
BWAAAAHA..Reading is key.

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Most of the growth was “natural increase” -- births minus deaths -- rather than more people pouring into California from elsewhere, the data indicate.
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Old 12-13-2013, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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39% White, 38% Hispanic and the rest mixed.
Hispanics tend to have large families.
The population growth in California will continue to increase rapidly as Hispanics take over the majority there.
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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California has only added 150,000 taxpayers to their tax rolls over the last 10 years, but has seen a population increase of 11million or so. Immigrants coming for benefits is a big chunk of that. Are they contributing to the tax base? Nope.
But they pay sales taxes and their landlords pay property taxes.
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Count me and my family among those who left, and there was a good reason we left: "It's the economy, stupid." Ever increasing taxes and fees on everything is part of it. We had had enough.
Ditto, but I'll add that the political climate sucks for anyone not in love with the idea of the government micromanaging their life, and the cost of living is just insane. I was paying more for a one bedroom apartment than I'm paying for a four bedroom house with a pool in Las Vegas.
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:52 AM
 
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Fastest growth of impoverished illegals coming for the big food stamps and housing subsidies and free health care does not really mean positive growth. It only means a big hike in third world poverty and the big government that goes with it.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Over 3,500,000 people have left the state over the past 20 years as Joel Kotkin reported in the OC Register last year, which certainly means that folks are leaving the state in droves

The peak year for births in California was 1973, with 611,666, births have declined every year since then, and reached 502,023 by 2011, a decline of 17.9% according to the Calif. Dept. Of Finance, Demographic Research Unit.

The percentage of children 18 years and under had collapsed from 33.4% of the state's population in 1970 to just 25% by 2010, and is projected to fall to just 20.9% by 2030, which is anything but a boom, according to an exhaustive study done by the Lucile Packard Foundation For Children's Health @ USC; she's the widow of the co-founder of Hewlett-Packard.

Take the plunging number of children born in this state and contrast to the exploding numbers of citizens aged 45-64 who'll need and consume far more public services as the years go by, and it's blatantly obvious the this state will be devastated financially when the number of children who'll be entering the workforce simply won't be enough to support skyrocketing numbers of baby-boomers, which will result in soaring taxes and a major slash-and-burn job in the availability of social services.

Those children who will be born in this state in years to come will be stuck in the nation's worst schools while their parents try to scrape by in a prohibitively expensive state in everything from housing to utilities to gasoline to groceries and everything else, thanks to the Democrats in Sacramento as well as the Bay-Area Trio (Harris/Brown/Newsom), three 'urban containment' zealots who are also gung-ho on middle-class destroying greens jobs from present and future Solyndras, as Kotkin pointed out recently.

The below replacement birth-rate (1.94) has been declining in every ethnic group since 2000 as the study points out, so a shortage of children and future wage-earners/taxpayers is a foregone conclusion.

Chicago is also facing financial disaster; 200,418 residents left that woebegone city between 2000-2010 according to WBBM-TV, and Chicago's population in 2010 according to the US Census Bureau had withered away to 2,695,598, the lowest figure reported by the Census since 2,185,183 citizens were counted in 2010!!!!

Add to Chicago's nonstop mounting of woes an 18.1% plunge in the African-American population to 872,286 people in 2000 from 2010, on top of a staggering 29.7% collapse to just 854,717 Caucasians during that same time frame, and it sounds like Detroit Round II to most of us.

I'll leave it up to you folks to decide which state has the worst balance sheet and prospects for remaining a tolerable place to live.
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Jerry Brown was awful the first time he was governor. I can't believe the stupidity of making him governor again!
I dont see how anyone can be disappointed in his job performance. He has been a great governor. Especially when compared to his predecessor.
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: North America
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earthquakes?
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Old 12-13-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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When you're the #1 home of the nation's welfare recipients (25% of them live here), any idea that California is 'booming' is asinine given the two-decade long exodus of working citizens from the state while the state continues to pander to environmental zealots as opposed to the middle class, whom Democrats have despised for decades, starting with our Preisdent.

You can add the forthcoming collapse in foreign trade as shipping companies increase their avoidance of California ports, especially LA & Long Beach, for the soon-to-be expanded Panama Canal as well as other ports dues to constant labor strikes and environmental roadblocks; when clerical workers can engineer a shutdown of our ports, you know that the inmates are running the asylum, and outsourcing is bound to accelerate until grownups are in charge.
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