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Old 12-30-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: NJ
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So it turns out Thomas Edison was an enemy of the people by today's standards.

All towns named 'Edison' Will have to renounce that devil and change the names of their towns.

And so the menlo park wizzard was indeed the spawn of the devil.

 
Old 12-30-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: texas
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So it turns out Thomas Edison was an enemy of the people by today's standards.

All towns named 'Edison' Will have to renounce that devil and change the names of their towns.

And so the menlo park wizzard was indeed the spawn of the devil.

Thomas Edison was an enemy of the people by today's standards?
 
Old 12-30-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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Maybe in your state, but here in Texas no law exists.
We will still be able to make and purchase low cost light.
Besides the fact that nobody wanted to build a plant to do that, they'd also have to be able to mine and refine tungsten for the filaments within the state in order to avoid interstate shipping so they could escape federal regulation.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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So it turns out Thomas Edison was an enemy of the people by today's standards.

All towns named 'Edison' Will have to renounce that devil and change the names of their towns.

And so the menlo park wizzard was indeed the spawn of the devil.
'er....pretty sure 'the devil' is in the 'New law.'
 
Old 12-30-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Thomas Edison was an enemy of the people by today's standards?
Not so much an enemy of the people as he was a shlocky entrepreneur and business man. He first tried to light the streets and deliver power using DC current.

Today, America and the world runs on Nocola Tesla's AC current, which Tesla sold the patents to Westinghouse at the turn of the century.

Edison invented gadgets. Tesla invented the model of power delivery systems the entire world uses today.

Edison's light bulb worked perfect in his labratory but put it down the street and it didn't using DC to run it. It took Tesla to develop a way to deliver the power to that light bulb. In the end Edison hated Tesla for finding the solution and he didn't.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 12:23 PM
 
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Not so much an enemy of the people as he was a shlocky entrepreneur and business man. He first tried to light the streets and deliver power using DC current.

Today, America and the world runs on Nocola Tesla's AC current, which Tesla sold the patents to Westinghouse at the turn of the century.

Edison invented gadgets. Tesla invented the model of power delivery systems the entire world uses today.

Edison's light bulb worked perfect in his labratory but put it down the street and it didn't using DC to run it. It took Tesla to develop a way to deliver the power to that light bulb. In the end Edison hated Tesla for finding the solution and he didn't.
Actually that discussion is much more involved than you indicate. In fact DC power was still in use in NYC building as late as the 1960s. And in later years the use of DC for high voltage has become common due to the losses in AC systems. Most electronic systems and much equipment today is in fact DC though getting its power from an AC source.

Edisons light bulb was a reasonably clean invention. The light bulb does not care what type of source powers it.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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How would more money be taken out of your wallet when CFL and LED lights are far cheaper to run and last a lot longer than the inefficient incandescent bulbs - thereby saving you quite a bit of money in the long run?

"The typical incandescent bulb lasts about 1,000 hours, while a 15-watt CFL bulb lasts 10,000 hours and a 12-watt LED bulb lasts 25,000 hours. In other words, incandescents last about a year while CFLs can last 10 years and LEDs up to 25."

WHY PEOPLE STILL USE INEFFICIENT INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULBS
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LED lights can also overheat. McGowan recommends using these bulbs in light
fixtures that have good ventilation.

So.....wonder what the life of an LED is when you use it in anything but a well ventilated table lamp?

Seems to me that the industry needs to concentrate on producing an efficient bulb that will work well in the 90% of light fixtures found in an average home that are not well ventilated.

And, once again, I ask.....when these CFL's and LED's overheat.....could they start a fire?
 
Old 12-30-2013, 01:08 PM
 
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So.....wonder what the life of an LED is when you use it in anything but a well ventilated table lamp?

Seems to me that the industry needs to concentrate on producing an efficient bulb that will work well in the 90% of light fixtures found in an average home that are not well ventilated.

And, once again, I ask.....when these CFL's and LED's overheat.....could they start a fire?
Unlikely. Most fixtures are designed to contain an incandescent which is much less containable.

It is the circuitry involved that would likely be the source rather than the light element.

You can never say never with electrical energy involved.

The result of a hot fixture would likely be a shortened life. Not a fire.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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From the article:




So.....wonder what the life of an LED is when you use it in anything but a well ventilated table lamp?

Seems to me that the industry needs to concentrate on producing an efficient bulb that will work well in the 90% of light fixtures found in an average home that are not well ventilated.

And, once again, I ask.....when these CFL's and LED's overheat.....could they start a fire?

Same ol same OLD Garbage, Annie.

We know we can (could depend on ''what ain't broke'' ...don't fix it. But, like anything sound, proven, safe and popular....THEY screw it up.

BTW, I got some Halogen bulbs which are very much like incandescent bulbs.....100 Watt Equivalent ...72 Watts used.

Put one in lamp by computer. Looks same as a 100 Watt incandescent bulb.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 01:35 PM
 
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Halogens are incandescent. But they'll be banned by 2020, so we'll have nothing but crappy LED and even crappier CFL.
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