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Old 01-12-2014, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Let me ask you this, what about the people who can't tolerate CFL bulbs on a long term daily basis? I guess those people should just "get over it" and spend 100's of dollars to relight their homes with LED's?
We're at $100 just for our kitchen, probably looking at $300-500 for the whole house.
With LED type they use one tenth the amount of electricity and last forty times as long ... Seems like a very good investment to me.

 
Old 01-12-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You can't buy oil whale but you can certainly buy an oil lamp and just like the incandescent bulb I have specific uses for them. They are nice out on the patio and deck and I also keep a few around in case of power outages. We have a generator but running it 24/7 is waste of fuel and annoying to boot. When you only need light at night the oil lamps come in handy. I also had a mini one I bought 25 years ago specifically for use in a tent, huge difference when it's 5 degrees out.
And why can't you use CFLs on your patio and deck? Also if you have a power outage, wouldn't that light be useless without power?
 
Old 01-12-2014, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I stocked up with as many 60, 75, 100 Watt incandescent bulbs as I could find.

My preference, my choice My business !!

Why don't you STOP being a bulb shill and mind you own business?!!
Good for you, I am sure that will last you the rest of your life.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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With LED type they use one tenth the amount of electricity and last forty times as long ... Seems like a very good investment to me.
If they were such a great deal people would have flocked to them and intervention by government/ big business would not have been necessary. In fact, most folks can't afford to put a big upfront investment in light bulbs, or have decided that they would rather spend their money in other ways.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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And why can't you use CFLs on your patio and deck? Also if you have a power outage, wouldn't that light be useless without power?
You don't need electrical power for an oil lamp. That was his point.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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Let me ask you this, what about the people who can't tolerate CFL bulbs on a long term daily basis? I guess those people should just "get over it" and spend 100's of dollars to relight their homes with LED's?
We're at $100 just for our kitchen, probably looking at $300-500 for the whole house.
Comparing 30 60 watt incandescents with 30 11 watt LED bulbs the break even point is about 7 months and over the lifespan of the LED you'll save about $4700. For a $300 investment that's not a bad ROI. That doesn't include time saved changing bulbs.

LEDwaves.com: LED Bulb Savings Calculator
 
Old 01-12-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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If they were such a great deal people would have flocked to them and intervention by government/ big business would not have been necessary. In fact, most folks can't afford to put a big upfront investment in light bulbs, or have decided that they would rather spend their money in other ways.
Are you kidding? Most people don't even have the intellectual curiosity to even see if changing bulbs would save them money or not. All they see is up front cost.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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The steam engine worked just fine, but I prefer a gas engine in my car over a steam engine. Tape decks work just fine but I prefer my music as digital files.

Technology advances and makes things obsolete. Your old light bulbs are what we call obsolete.

yes, but it was not government who made the steam engine go away, it was the consumer and the wanting of something better. other engines also came out that were cheaper as well. not so with CFL's. if not for government intervention, people would still be buying incandescent.

CFL's might work fine, but they look like crap and are expensive as all hell. glad I found a place I can order incandescent online.

as far as I am concerned, the government can go suck a flipping egg.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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So your opinion is valid and welcome, but my opinion is not valid nor welcome because you disagree with it....forums don't work that way. I will post in here if I want to.


urbanlife, I do not mind your opinion, but I do not want your opinion forced upon me by government. if not for government, incandescent bulbs would still be the cheapest bulbs available. not CFL's are the only bulbs available and they are still expensive. too expensive to put in every socket in the home, especially for the poor.

too bad the government, repubs and the dems do not give a crap about the poor.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 10:08 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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60 watt bulb last 2,000 hours. Use120 killowatthours. At 0.10 per kwh thar is $12.00

Equivelent CFL in 2000 hours uses abour $4.00 in electric cost and can continue for another4,000 hours.

What you guys are demanding is the right to do the wrong thing

don't mind people buying CFL's at all, but not forced to buy them. plus CFL's still look like crap.
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