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Old 12-15-2013, 10:31 PM
 
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I thought Obama was going to be "Change" and unite the country.

Here's what he has to show after 5 years:
  • More debt
  • More partisanship (Is he the most partisan president in all of U.S. history? I think he might be.)
  • In general, a more divided country. He's really stroked the division between men and women, Blacks and Whites.
  • Bigger government
  • Worse economy (when you look at the real statistics, not the ones cooked by the government)
  • More drone strikes. (Yes, the wars have been scaled down overall, but those were from timetables Bush had already set.)
  • More incompetency (Healthcare.gov lol)

What a joke this guy is. He is proof of how stupid America has become. Get a decent looking, half-Black guy who's good at reading a TelePrompTer, and the country will vote him in twice.

 
Old 12-15-2013, 11:12 PM
 
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Our healthcare system is improved dramatically for one.
 
Old 12-16-2013, 01:10 AM
 
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...according to Forbes, President Obama "has actually been tighter with a buck than any president since Dwight D. Eisenhower."
Only when you use 2009 as a baseline which they are attributing to Bush, there is arguments as to why it should or should not be attributed to Bush but that is besides the point. The point is that is what they are comparing his spending too in that article.

Let's say you have an extraordinary expense and buy a new car in 2009 which should be a one time purchase but then you buy one in 2010, 2011, 2012.... It's like trying to argue you haven't increased spending in 2010, 2011 and 2012 becsue you're not spending anymore than you did in 2009.
 
Old 12-16-2013, 02:55 AM
 
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Our healthcare system is improved today because you can no longer be denied for pre-existing conditions for one and there are now subsidies in place so that the less fortunate in society can have access to affordable health insurance. There are also caps on the profits that insurance companies can make, increases in premium are regulated, and contracts are required to now be written so that applicants can actually understand what they are signing for.
 
Old 12-16-2013, 05:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by CravingMountains View Post
Our healthcare system is improved dramatically for one.
Surely you're joking, not a dam thing has changed in regards to healthcare. If you're thinking health insurance, then millions of people are losing their insurance..

If you dont know the difference, then please dont embarass yourself by announcing it to the world.
 
Old 12-16-2013, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by TheSoundOfMuzak View Post
I thought Obama was going to be "Change" and unite the country.

Here's what he has to show after 5 years:
  • More debt
  • More partisanship (Is he the most partisan president in all of U.S. history? I think he might be.)
  • In general, a more divided country. He's really stroked the division between men and women, Blacks and Whites.
  • Bigger government
  • Worse economy (when you look at the real statistics, not the ones cooked by the government)
  • More drone strikes. (Yes, the wars have been scaled down overall, but those were from timetables Bush had already set.)
  • More incompetency (Healthcare.gov lol)

What a joke this guy is. He is proof of how stupid America has become. Get a decent looking, half-Black guy who's good at reading a TelePrompTer, and the country will vote him in twice.
Just to list a few things ....

Daily Kos: Obama accomplishments

and this assessment ...

Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments by Paul Glastris, Ryan Cooper, and Siyu Hu | The Washington Monthly
 
Old 12-16-2013, 06:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by florida.bob View Post
Isnt it horrible that Obama needs to take claim for things he didnt even do, or call things like "spending", accomplishments.

At least I respected Clintons "accomplishments" by reducing the deficit, since when did skyrocketing them, equate to an accomplishment as well?

btw, #8 is a complete lie, Bush capitalized the banks, through TARP, well before obama became president..
#9 is another lie, Obama fought against repealing DADT, and only repealed it after a judge ordered him to.

/FAIL
 
Old 12-16-2013, 06:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by CravingMountains View Post
Our healthcare system is improved dramatically for one.

5 million insurance policies cancelled
15 million citizens without insurance now
premiums and deductibles increased
access reduced
$3.5 trillion in new government expenses
increased taxes

And that is just with the individual roll out. Now how is that an "improvement"?
 
Old 12-16-2013, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The Top-5 which come to mind:

1. Stock market
2. Housing market
3. Out of Iraq & Afghanistan (on going)
4. Restoration of US image globally
5. US on path to becoming the largest oil producer in the world
 
Old 12-16-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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Sorry, kids, you are not going to turn another thread into one about healthcare.
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