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Old 11-27-2007, 10:41 AM
 
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Most Americans support public (government-run) education...are they all socialists too?
yep


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Old 11-27-2007, 10:42 AM
 
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sorry, thought post said healthcare.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:42 AM
 
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What does it take to not be a "socialist?"
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:47 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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This is the Communist planks,perhaps socialists just do this with a smile??

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.

7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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You have to be George Bush or Ann Ryand not to be a socialist.

Oz - You should have quoted KARL MARX for his thoughts. I AGREE with the basis of Marx’s ideas but would not extend them as far as he states. Things that are for the common good like roads, water supply, public transportation should be commonly owned. Industries should be privately owned but required to use union labor and decent safety and environmental standards. Taxation should include all income from all sources, including inheritance, and be levied on everything greater than say 3 x the mean income. The government should pay for heath care and education. The military would be reduced to a national militia without a huge standing army or overseas bases. Our own borders would be secured with very tightly controlled immigration.

Like I said I am a small d democrat that supports a republican government based on our Constitution.

PS – In the transport thread your friend proposing the ferry service wanted an exclusive. An exclusive is a monopoly and contrary to the basic principals of free enterprise. I can see why the governments turned him down. I’ll bet he would have gotten the charter if he had not asked for a monopoly. Needing a monopoly is the basics principal of Marxism with the state replacing the private investor.

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Old 11-27-2007, 01:06 PM
 
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By this I mean should those of us who happen to live near the ocean in a hurricane prone area be made to pay more than those of you who don't?

It seems 'unfair' to charge more just because of my zipcode.

Shouldn't everyone pay the same no matter their locale or the number of claims?

Having your home protected against damage would seem to be a basic right,what is more basci than the right to having a safe shelter?

I would think we all agree that those of us who happen to live in dangerous regions(Take Malibu as a modern example) shouldn't be FORCED to pay more,the cost should be spread around to all.

LOLOLOL You are kidding. Right???

In case you aren't, NO, the people who choose to live in disaster prone areas should pay more, way more, than the rest of us. Facts of life. Stop trying to make this a socialistic country. We are already too close to that as it is with the other idiotic socialistic things the government gets itself involved in and doing.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:21 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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LOLOLOL You are kidding. Right???

In case you aren't, NO, the people who choose to live in disaster prone areas should pay more, way more, than the rest of us. Facts of life. Stop trying to make this a socialistic country. We are already too close to that as it is with the other idiotic socialistic things the government gets itself involved in and doing.
You are mean spirited then....

YES!!!
I was not serious.

I am HAPPY to pay my insurance...okay I'm not really,it sucks.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I think Rush and Savage and Phyllis Schlafly tuck these guys in at night. SHEESH!
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:29 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I think Rush and Savage and Phyllis Schlafly tuck these guys in at night. SHEESH!
No....


My NANNY tucks me in.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Well then lets evacuate all of Florida except the millionaires who can afford insurance .Matter of fact,lets just sell Florida back to Spain and use the money to pay off some of the national debt.

You say tuff luck to people who's premiums skyrocket but many people when faced with the fact that their mortgage has gone up $400 a month just because of insurance are forced to sell,and alot less people can afford to buy,which is another reason for the real estate slump.

I got to ask,how is it that insurance CEO's record huge profit,while tripling rates to the point where too many are forced out ?I don't want you to foot the bill,I want free markets for insurance,I want insurance CEO's to profit,but not at the expense of slamming homeowners with unreal increases.If insurance is gonna play that game than guidelines and regulation is needed.
Since when was all of fla destroyed by a hurricane? Houses on the beach yes... Those people chose to but or build there. They own the burden that comes with it. Same as the idiots that build along a river that has seasonal flooding. They made a choice, they accepts the burden of the choice.
I built on top of a mountain, in the winter I loose power for days at a time. I dont ask the gov to install a stand bye generator. I bought one myself. If you cant handle the insurance then you cant handle the risk. Don't buy a home in high risk areas. As for properties that get whacked year after year they are covered by fed insurance, Its insurance that the private sector won't provide. I say the Gov bails you out once and then your on your own.
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