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Old 11-26-2007, 12:43 PM
 
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I mean better than helping pay for everyone in America to have a car, or more than one car, which would probably lead to increased congestion, crappier air, more global warming, etc., so it could hurt the people it was intended to help since poor people tend to live in locales with less healthy air as it is. By "nationwide" I implied connecting all the cities with railroads, which might not be a good idea, although it would be a good idea to fund mass transit enough to make sure significant needs for transportation are met wherever they exist (connecting rural areas to cities, good transit systems for cities, etc.)
Um.. I better not see any proposal about the government helping to buy one car, let alone more then one car for people.. especially since a drivers license is a privlidge..
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Your mind
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You won't see it from me.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:47 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Fishmonger,how do you see a national maas transit system being built?

Who would pay for it?
How would the necessary land be acquired?


I also wonder how it will provide transportation to every town,or would it only connect large urban areas?

Perhaps you could start a thread as this is an interesting idea.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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no I am NOT denying anyone. I would do it as others countries do, deduct a percentage from payroll. Those that are unemployed would be covered under their unemployment benefit.


Interesting how quickly you change your tune, so now it is "shameful" to deny coverage, not what you usually say. I think you are just being a troll
AND, if they are unemployed and have no "unemployment benefits"???
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:06 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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oz,I being in Florida have been living this situation with insurance.Yes I believe if you are on the beach being charged more is fair.

But................


Years and years of collecting premiums,a bad year hits and they slam homeowners.Most companies have either refused to write,or have tripled or quadrupled rates.Yet I read that a insurance CEO ABOASTED RECORD PROFITS IN THE MEAN TIME.

My windstorm increased $2400 in 2 years.Before I sold my house my flood was $800,my fire and theft was $1800 and my windstorm was $4400.Before the 2 year increase my windstorm was half,my F&T a little less.I had to sell,even though I wanted to anyway.Another year and I wouldn't have been able to make my payments.This was one a 1750sgft house,not some huge house.

When a company employees and customers has a bad year,how can the CEO still manage record profit?And in this case competition isn't working because all companies are jacking rates beyond alot of people ability or refusing to write.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Why should my $60,000, 1,200 sf house in a city with a fire hydrant on the corner (public transit stop, also) subsidize your beach front or high risk area house? I bought what I could afford, knew the costs up front and don't like it when my insurance rates go up either. But that's the price I pay to own my nice little house in the city.

In Florida, big, devastating storms are becoming the norm. I don't know how anyone can afford to live there at all.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Why should my $60,000, 1,200 sf house in a city with a fire hydrant on the corner (public transit stop, also) subsidize your beach front or high risk area house? I bought what I could afford, knew the costs up front and don't like it when my insurance rates go up either. But that's the price I pay to own my nice little house in the city.

In Florida, big, devastating storms are becoming the norm. I don't know how anyone can afford to live there at all.
$60,000 house??? I hate to think what barrio that must be in!!

As for living in Florida, cost of living is not that bad. And, other than the occasional storm, great golfing weather - great fishing and boating - and year round swimming!
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I bought it at $33.5, better yet.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I bought it at $33.5, better yet.
Still, has to be in a barrio!!
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Actually, a nice little community. Relatively safe and secure. Prices in Pittsburgh are reasonable, if you live in the city. Burbs are ridiculous.
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