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View Poll Results: Glenn Beck vs. Anderson Cooper on Glenn's new book - who won??
Glenn Beck won hands down! He kicked butt! 20 41.67%
Anderson Cooper had Glenn cornered like scared dog! 15 31.25%
It was a tie. 1 2.08%
I don't know / I did not watch the show. 12 25.00%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-26-2007, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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BEEP goes the non-sequitur meter.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Edward "Ted" Kennedy is the only Senator in American history with two brothers who were also U.S. Senators. His oldest brother, Joseph Jr., was killed in World War II. His other brothers, President John F. Kennedy and Senator Robert F. Kennedy, were assassinated.

Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than four decades, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. He authored or argued for legislation that ensured a variety of civil rights, increased the minimum wage in 1981, made access to health care easier for the indigent, and funded Meals on Wheels for fixed-income seniors. Widely held as the "standard-bearer for liberalism", his legacy is that his era has been dominated by conservatives (Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush) and moderates (Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton).

Kennedy earned C grades at the private Milton Academy, but was admitted to Harvard as a "legacy" -- his father and older brothers had attended there, so the younger and dimmer Kennedy's admission was virtually assured. While attending, he was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England, pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea, where a war was raging. Kennedy was assigned to Paris, never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged.

While attending law school at the University of Virginia, he was cited for reckless driving four times, including once when he was clocked driving 90 miles per hour in a residential neighborhood with his headlights off after dark. Yet his Virginia driver's license was never revoked. He passed the bar exam in 1959, and two years later was appointed an Assistant to the District Attorney in Massachusetts' Suffolk County.

In 1962, at age 30 (constitutionally, the minimum age to hold a Senate seat) he ran for the Senate. His timing was perfect -- his brother John had given up the seat to become President, and Kennedy easily won the office. He was re-elected in 1964, 1970, 1976, 1982, 1988, 1994, and 2000.

In 1964, he was seriously injured in a plane crash, and hospitalized for several months. His sister Kathleen and nephew "John John" were killed in separate plane crashes.

On 19 July 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts. At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur's keys to his Oldsmobile limousine, and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit, narrow, rickety wooden bridge, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge and into Poucha Pond. He swam to shore and walked back to the party -- passing several houses and a fire station -- and two friends returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew, that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep.

Kennedy called the police the next morning. By then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying, Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car. The Kennedy family began pulling strings, ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family, before an autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne, and he didn't call police because he was in a state of shock. In versions not so kind, it is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, that he was having an affair with Kopechne, and/or that he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight.

Since the accident, Kennedy's political enemies have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick, or worse. He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a suspended sentence of two months. Kopechne's family received a small payout from the Kennedy's insurance policy, and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy's family paid their attorney's bills.

In 1973, at the height of Nixon's Watergate scandal, Kennedy thundered from the Senate floor, "Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law? Or is there one system for the average citizen and another for the high and mighty?"

In 1980, Kennedy challenged Carter, his own party's sitting President, for the Democratic nomination. Kennedy's bid was hampered by questions of Chappaquiddick and by an interview with CBS Newsman Roger Mudd, who asked the straightforward question, "Why do you want to be President?" Kennedy couldn't come up with a straightforward answer. Carter was nominated for re-election, but the party's divisions contributed to the victory won by Reagan.

In a late-1980s media profile, Kennedy was succinctly described as someone who "grew to manhood without learning to be an adult". He is rumored to have had several affairs while married to his first wife, and had often been seen in public while thoroughly tanked and/or behaving obnoxiously. In 1987 he was caught in flagrante delicto with an unidentified woman on the floor of a restaurant. His public image since the early 1990s and during his second marriage has been more conservative and restrained.

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Old 11-26-2007, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Can I blow the top of your older brother's head off on national TV, then 5 years later blow the back of your other brother's head off in public at a political event, then tell me how great you feel about it? Also throw in having a retarded older sister and an even older brother who died in WW2. But your family is rich and that means you don't feel anything anyway.

what a jerk
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Can I blow the top of your older brother's head off on national TV, then 5 years later blow the back of your other brother's head off in public at a political event, then tell me how great you feel about it? Also throw in having a retarded older sister and an even older brother who died in WW2. But your family is rich and that means you don't feel anything anyway.

what a jerk
Unlike Beck, who apparently deserves no compassion. Not to mention the family gazillions made through bootlegging and the Senate sinecure.

hypocrite
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:06 PM
 
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Generally alcoholics are self-absorbed when they are still drinking and if you are going to try and sound like you know about a subject you may want to pay attention to your spelling.

When choosing a religion should someone just pick a religion out of a hat or should they pick one that suits them. It seems to me he did alot more thinking about it than most people.
Its called typing quickly while at work

I thought most people stopped pointing out other people's obvious oversights in grade school...guess I was wrong.

It does make sense though, real estate agent...grade school...
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:09 PM
 
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Great post. The righteous are most always fueled by a disturbed past.
Thanks!

I'm glad you were able to decipher it, what with all of the horrible grammatcial errors I made ...Mike Peterson still needs the point to be explained to him, maybe you could help.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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Its called typing quickly while at work

I thought most people stopped pointing out other people's obvious oversights in grade school...guess I was wrong.

It does make sense though, real estate agent...grade school...
I pointed it out because both posts attempted to be condescending.

And then you follow it up with another personal attack. If that makes you feel better I won't stop you. It does highlight your feelings of inadequacy though.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:23 PM
 
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I pointed it out because both posts attempted to be condescending.

And then you follow it up with another personal attack. If that makes you feel better I won't stop you. It does highlight your feelings of inadequacy though.
And pointing out grammatical errors doesn't highlight your inadequate feelings?

And by the way I feel fine, though I would guess we all feel inadequate at some point in our lives, I just find people with your mindset to be the reason our country is in the trouble it is. Your (type's) MO is to demean those who disagree with you...and when it comes back at you, you whine about it. Glen Beck is the perfect example...he feels inadequate, so he feels the need to speak loudly and demean people who actually have compassion for others.

Sick man.
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:00 PM
 
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This thread has become very entertaining..please continue

I was going to participate myself, but on the very first page when I read the OP write that O'Reilly was fair and had no spin I threw my hands up and wrote this thread off as comical. To argue with somebody who actually thinks O'Reilly is truthful and unbiased is like trying to argue with one of those little kids, "I know you are, but what am I?"
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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You forget there is such a thing as "shock and awe" (and sitting ducks) in board repartee!
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