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That is not the direction we are headed when the Mega Corporations and Banks are in bed with the government lobbying for NAFTA, No Labeling on products, Chinese Trade Pacts and so on.
The foreign economic policies dictate what is available in American Markets.
Give it a rest with the economic nationalism, this is how capitalism works. Individuals and corporations have the right to invest their dollars wherever they want, and trade is conducive to a healthy economy. Don't believe me? Try becoming an island to yourself, and see how life is like without the ability to conduct economic transactions with others.
The purpose of our government is to serve the best interests of the nation for ALL CITIZENS not just for enriching the politically connected that have the monetary power to buy our government.
Perhaps you should refresh yourself on the principles the founding fathers envisioned at the creation of this country.
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The preamble reads: “WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
If your against protecting the general welfare of all citizens, then perhaps we should all be free to do as we please regardless of the damage done to the country if it benefits each of us.
Multi National Corporations and the Big Banks Wall Street Banks only exist to make a profit for themselves and their shareholders. They do not care one iota about the well being of the nation. Therefore, how could anyone think that it is a good idea that they infest our government?
...................... and you, as a liberal, applaud Bill Clinton (who created NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status) and will vote for Hillary in 2016.
Sometimes morons deserve the punishment that they create and demand.
With all due respect hawkeye.
It is not a liberal or conservative issue when the Banksters write the policies on both "teams" to pass.
Let us recall Bush Seniors Speech on the New World Order.
A world order ruled by Multi-National Corporations and Central Banks calling the shots and in control of all governments.
Weird ain't it? Cheap stuff is awesome. Let's buy it all from China. That way, the people that sell cheap stuff here get sold out/under. More people lose low paying jobs, but that's just win. Who needs a job anyway?
I made a thread earlier about how this is screwing India, with business's failing because of being undersold. It was removed as not being appropriate to the forum. I thought people might make the connection. If you have to import everything from somewhere else, the ones who make local stuff suffer. There go the jobs. It's kind of something that might be controversial.
Just curious, if this thread is also deleted....wondering where to post this. China has already erased a lot of American business by using super cheap labor. Why does America not care?
Let's just keep selling out to the Chinese. They won't win by war. They'll win with hand towels and plastic plates.
Because American's are stupid. We think we can have our cake and eat it too. It is our demand for cheap stuff that is fueling this. We are doing this to ourselves.
When my mom was a girl, her dad had a wardrobe made for her when she was in high school that she wore for years. Well made clothing in classic styling that she'd dress up with accessories so the only things she needed to buy were what needed replacing and a new accessory here and there. Contrast to now when girls won't wear the same outfit to school twice. How much money are we wasting on cheap clothing so we can wear something different every day (this is just one example...we replace technology with new technology even if we don't really need new technology just because it is new technology and we have to have the latest and the greatest....etc, etc, etc...).
My students think I'm nuts because I wear my clothes until they need to be discarded and repair them if I can. That's the way I grew up. I'd rather spend $50 on a well made blouse than $15 on something trendy because I know I'll wear the blouse for years to come. This is not how the average consumer thinks though. They want new stuff all the time and it has to be cheap stuff so they can afford new stuff all the time. Labor is cheaper in China so that's where the cheap stuff is made. This eliminates jobs here but people don't care about that until it's their job being eliminated and then they want SOMEONE ELSE to fix it.
As the saying goes "You made your bed now go lie in it" This saying BTW dates back to a time when you really did make your own bed and if you didn't tie up the supports (don't know what they called them but they used to tie rope under the bed to support the mattress) well, your bed sagged and your back would hurt. You also made your own mattress and if you made a lumpy one, you slept on a lumpy bed. Well, the bed we made sags and our mattress is lumpy and now our backs hurt but we did this to ourselves.
I really don't see this changing. If anything I see it escalating. I have an iphone 4 only because it was free with my plan. Seriously, this thing does more than I'll ever need a phone to do in the foreseeable future. I'll keep it until my kids are off my plan and then probably go back to a regular phone because it's cheaper and I really don't need a phone that plays games (I actually got it for the camera and video features but I can still use those even without a phone plan). The kids I teach could NEVER do that. They could NEVER scale back on their phones. They'll buy anything that the tech market is selling and think they need it. Never mind they don't.
If we were to hang on to our money and spend it only on what we needed and then buy made in the USA we could turn this around but we won't. We like our cheap stuff. We think we need the latest and greatest. We're special after all....
We're going to find out how NOT special we are over the next few decades.
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I see you shop at Dollar stores like millions of Americans do. Oh wait. Never mind.
Uh; I bought some pens at Target and they were made on some other cheap country, NOT China. Too; at places like Wal Mart I'm seeing more and more things like TVs with "Assembled in the USA" printed on the boxes. Some of the parts MIGHT be made in China but it must be cheaper to finish making them in the "high cost" US. Sheesh!
There is a bit of commercial wisdom to the effect that it is better to be cheated in the price than in the quality of the merchandise. Likewise, it would be difficult to see the advantage of having a surplus of shoddy goods; but then, perhaps Wal-Mart knows better what is best for us.
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...................... and you, as a liberal, applaud Bill Clinton (who created NAFTA and China most favored nation trade status) and will vote for Hillary in 2016.
Sometimes morons deserve the punishment that they create and demand.
In the '50s RCA made vacuum tube parts in the US, shipped them to Brazil for assembly by cheap labor, then shipped them back to the US in an effort to increase their bottom line.
Wanna try and blame that on Clinton too?
Corporations happily selling out US workers in such of more $$$ for themselves is hardly new and has nothing to do with your anti-liberal .
China is screwing the United States with cheap stuff.
Yes.......they probably cant stand this country and what the leaders here are doing to the world!!!!!!
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