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No, YOU are in error. I will not judge anyone morally for thinking their money is best given to the government.
Sure sounds like it.
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It is YOU who judges ME for not believing in it.
No, I am saying it is a matter of opinion. You have yours, and others have theirs. You may be right, but it doesn't mean the others are sinners.
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You seem to forget it was a Theocracy.
It was a different form of government, but a government nonetheless.
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No, it assumes that they have a God given right to force their beliefs in how to help other people on others. This runs counter to ALL Christianity.
No, it only means they see things different from you. They believe their money is best used, when it is spent thought government programs. They could be wrong, but their heart is in the right place either way.
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Anything is possible. It's been demonstrated that liberals, by and large, do NOT. They simply want someone else's money to spend so they can claim personal virtue.
A liberal taxpayer doesn't get to spend, they only get to pay taxes, and they believe it helps others. That is not sinful.
Jesus says that the most honorable thing is to help out others and honor the poor. Those with wealth are to give to those in need, and those that don't, will not enter the kingdom of god.
I don't see any right wing evangelical nutcases pushing for the rich to help those in need, quite the opposite. They are doing everything they can to bankroll the rich and tell the needy to go to hell.
Essentially today's GOP and especially the teabaggers are doing the devil's work.
Wanting lower taxes is not the devil's work. Big government will eventually take the whole paycheck and oppress those who work. This system is completely corrupt . It will fall eventually.
The free handouts , the lies, the oppression on the working middle class as they are burdened by the entitlement spirit that many believe the government should fund them from cradle to grave. It will come to an end as our government takes more control in every aspect of our lives
The government has no bottom line. They can spend frivolously and hand the bill to the taxpayer. The government will bankrupt we the people, as they answer to no one. Accountability is not on the table when it comes to government spending.
So, you've stated it. Now prove it from scripture. There is no way you can. But I can prove from scripture what Jesus (who is God) thought about money and wealth. I only scratched the surface in my OP.
What if the government demands too much from the individual and they fall into poverty and are living in dire need as the government oppresses them? Is this social justice?
The government is a strong entity and they have NO HEART. Many will struggle to pay their premiums as they go higher. The takers will have it better . Is this your social justice?
You are missing the point. It is not about what the government demands, it is about what liberal Christians believe. If they believe the best way to help the poor is thought government programs, then how can you judge their hearts?
Sure, no problem. I have an extra $30,000 lying around, on top of the taxes I pay.
Look, what I'm saying is that the government taxes me. It taxes my neighbours as well. The money goes into a community pot so nobody has to go without medical care, higher education or daycare so moms can work. I have absolutely no problem with that. Neither do most other Canadians.
You may want to call that socialism, but I suggest you revisit your dictionary.
Meanwhile, you have people on these boards saying that the sick should be driven to the outskirts of town and left to fend for themselves. If they die, they die.
As a Canadian, I find that reprehensible.
As a human being, I find it reprehensible.
I do not judge someone for giving their money away.
You, however, harshly judge people, with loud moralistic condemnation for NOT agreeing that the government should take it in amounts YOU want taken.
In other words... I wish people to be free to choose where they think they their money should go.
You demand that government control where their money should go, and you and your allies morally condemn everyone who doesn't agree and demand their objections be overridden at gunpoint.
Remember... all government acts - including taxation - is done by threat of deadly force.
When you want government to take my money as if it were charity... You're saying "I believe that this is right, and I'm willing the government kill you, if you don't agree to it".
Proverbs 19:17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.
Galatians 6:2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
Deuteronomy 15:11 For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’
Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker, but he who is generous to the needy honors him.
Luke 12:23 Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Mark 10:21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.
Jesus was the king of all socialists.
But none of those verses addresses the question I asked. Again how do you explain Mark 22:21--'render to Ceasar?' Again liberals and socialists generally see government as the vehicle of choice for good works, especially redistribution of wealth. Jesus did not work through government; he worked independently of it.
If I give five bucks to a homeless person, he may be able to buy a meal, but how will that help his pneumonia or his diabetes?
I have no problem giving to the government so he can have medical care.
Wow, what did we ever do before big gubment? I currently volunteer, and in my area there are a good portion of homeless and domestic violence shelters, as well as dental and medical clinics. In addition, the church that is 500 yards from my house runs a food bank, as well as many other religious establishments. Imagine how much more aware of community resources we would be if we directly funded these places instead of taxes being taken and distributed according to said government? We would be forced to get an accurate reflection of our community needs vs. handing it over to an oligarchy to disperse, enabling most remain totally ignorant.
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