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I guess it was a slow day for Tea Party type of reports. The story ran in April and Fox is the only place where it still exists. Why dont you run a story on Medicare or VA fraud? Guess you dont want to offend the base.
I am not sure why fire trucks show up but the police must clear the scene making it is sure it is safe for the medics before paramedics can go on scene.
Really? Your ignorance to the issues astound me. First off, the fire department goes to the scene because they are paramedics and will get there before anyone else; including the ambulance. In the city I work in, the ambulance could be coming from 20+ mins away and that is not unusual. That way, the fire department paramedics can stabilize the patient long before the ambulance gets there (that was one of those union things, which came about 20+ years ago, in order NOT to downsize the fire department).
The police must clear the scene? Huh? For a medical call, the fire department can roll "Code 3." That means lights and siren. I CANNOT (more liberal, attorney reasons). The fire department is onscene at these calls, 95% of the time before I am or any other police officer. They have the person awake, which 99% of the time its just a drunk, and ready when I get there. Then the BIG question comes into play: Do I arrest them and take them to jail? Or have the ambulance take them to the emergency room and medically clear them first.
9 out of 10 times, they go to the emergency room first (at your tax dime). Why? Because if I take them to the jail, the jail will just call out another fire engine and ambulance and have them transported to the hospital anyway. Too much (read again, liberal) liability, for accepting them, without a doctor medically clearing them before incarceration.
Yeah, I know, its simple and easy when you are sitting at home, having a few martini's to "do the right thing." Its a whole different issue when you actually live it, breath it, and have to do it for real.
Really? Your ignorance to the issues astound me. First off, the fire department goes to the scene because they are paramedics and will get there before anyone else; including the ambulance. In the city I work in, the ambulance could be coming from 20+ mins away and that is not unusual. That way, the fire department paramedics can stabilize the patient long before the ambulance gets there (that was one of those union things, which came about 20+ years ago, in order NOT to downsize the fire department).
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Perhaps you can explain why the vehicle used is a freaking expensive to operate first truck??
Why have departments not provided an ordinary van/whatever for this type of call?
After reading the cost of taking a fully equipped fire truck just a few miles, it can't be to save money on an extra vehicle.
Last summer I watched two....two...fire engines just sit there until an ambulance arrived,picked up someone at a medical clinic (obviously lots of trained personnel handy)
As well as the absolute waste of resources, I kept thinking about a call coming in for an actual fire while those two were dispatched so uselessly.
Really? Your ignorance to the issues astound me. First off, the fire department goes to the scene because they are paramedics and will get there before anyone else; including the ambulance. In the city I work in, the ambulance could be coming from 20+ mins away and that is not unusual. That way, the fire department paramedics can stabilize the patient long before the ambulance gets there (that was one of those union things, which came about 20+ years ago, in order NOT to downsize the fire department).
The police must clear the scene? Huh? For a medical call, the fire department can roll "Code 3." That means lights and siren. I CANNOT (more liberal, attorney reasons). The fire department is onscene at these calls, 95% of the time before I am or any other police officer. They have the person awake, which 99% of the time its just a drunk, and ready when I get there. Then the BIG question comes into play: Do I arrest them and take them to jail? Or have the ambulance take them to the emergency room and medically clear them first.
9 out of 10 times, they go to the emergency room first (at your tax dime). Why? Because if I take them to the jail, the jail will just call out another fire engine and ambulance and have them transported to the hospital anyway. Too much (read again, liberal) liability, for accepting them, without a doctor medically clearing them before incarceration.
Yeah, I know, its simple and easy when you are sitting at home, having a few martini's to "do the right thing." Its a whole different issue when you actually live it, breath it, and have to do it for real.
Good informative post I just wonder what the cost is to scrape drunks off the sidewalk? I would guess it is at least a 1,000 bucks.
Maybe someday their will be a leader who will implement a don't see don't tell policy, just cruise by them and see nothing. It might come to that if the city is looking to cut expenses, picking up drunks and free taxi rides would be on the block.
Perhaps you can explain why the vehicle used is a freaking expensive to operate first truck??
Why have departments not provided an ordinary van/whatever for this type of call?
After reading the cost of taking a fully equipped fire truck just a few miles, it can't be to save money on an extra vehicle.
Last summer I watched two....two...fire engines just sit there until an ambulance arrived,picked up someone at a medical clinic (obviously lots of trained personnel handy)
As well as the absolute waste of resources, I kept thinking about a call coming in for an actual fire while those two were dispatched so uselessly.
My fiance has an illness that causes her to almost call an ambulance monthly for a trip to the hospital.
We used to live directly across the street fro the ambulance station, and everytime we'd call we'd say
"just send an ambulance, we dont need the fire trucks, they cant help" (gf is allergic to the pain meds the fire trucks are authorized to have), and sure enough, the fire trucks would show up first and then continue to announce to us that they cant help, and we'd all be sitting there waiting for the paramedics, who once again, is stationed right across the street.
I am not sure why fire trucks show up but the police must clear the scene making it is sure it is safe for the medics before paramedics can go on scene.
I think the firemen show up in case the medics need help moving the patient. With close to half the people in this country obese and 30% morbidly so it often takes more than two people to move someone.
I am not sure why fire trucks show up but the police must clear the scene making it is sure it is safe for the medics before paramedics can go on scene.
The firemen are usually sitting around playing Pinochle anyway.
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I just wonder what the cost is to scrape drunks off the sidewalk? I would guess it is at least a 1,000 bucks.
