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Old 12-30-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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Yes, they can apply for hardship IF THEY BECOME INJURED. Not just because they choose to not carry health insurance.

Again, it is simply untrue that one can get Medicaid by opting out of employer funded health insurance.
They can certainly run their kids to a doctor anytime they want when they're on Medicaid -- but yes, when you're perfectly healthy and don't need to go to the hospital, then Medicaid doesn't give you money just because you don't want to pay your way for anything. Get sick though and it's there -- no copay, no premiums, all free.
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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And this is why AA believe the Min wage should be raised. It's the only way he can justify more money.
The minimum wage should be abolished...
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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huh????

less people are choosing to go to medical school...why..the cost, and less likely to get reimbursed

meanwhile our population is expanding
More med schools are being created, along with more med school slots with existing schools, means more med students, not less.

https://www.aamc.org/newsroom/newsre...l#.UsGeq_t-PFw

Just in AZ, we've about doubled med school slots these last few years. U of A opened the Phoenix campus, and Mayo's also recently came on line.
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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Are any of those life and death problems? No. You should care for the people in your community whether you know them or not.

Yes Yes I know the talking points of libertarianism. Its a sickness and I have heard it all. god forbid you are poor and need health care in a libertarians world no money means no service. In a correct and sane world EVERYONE would get healthcare free of charge.Along with education. A true government OF the people and BY the people should care whether or not their best and brightest are getting educated to the best of their abilities regardless if they can afford it or not,the state should pick up the tab and in return they can give back to the state for either a period of time like an enlistment in the military or they can choose to do it for the rest of their lives.Same goes for healthcare. It should not depend on your income status as to what healthcare you get every person should get the same high class healthcare.
And where does the money come from to pay for all this largesse?
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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More med schools are being created, along with more med school slots with existing schools, means more med students, not less.

https://www.aamc.org/newsroom/newsre...l#.UsGeq_t-PFw

Just in AZ, we've about doubled med school slots these last few years. U of A opened the Phoenix campus, and Mayo's also recently came on line.
Why Do So Many Doctors Regret Their Job Choice? - Forbes

One problem that has already manifested itself: Fewer medical students are going into lower-paying specialties like family and internal medicine.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:02 AM
 
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Why Do So Many Doctors Regret Their Job Choice? - Forbes

One problem that has already manifested itself: Fewer medical students are going into lower-paying specialties like family and internal medicine.
This is currently being addressed with better and more reimbursements for primary care services. Particularly with increased Medicaid reimbursements and with the new Medicare Wellness Visits. These Wellness Visits have been a great new money maker for us, with minimal physician time and input. For instance if we were able capture all the Wellness Visits for all our Medicare patients this year, that would be on the order of $75K easy additional revenue. And then about $50K yearly thereafter.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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Ladies & Gentlemen! I proudly present the single sentence that illustrates quite clearly why socialism always fails.


I am a prime example of why socialism can work!

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Old 12-30-2013, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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This is currently being addressed with better and more reimbursements for primary care services. Particularly with increased Medicaid reimbursements and with the new Medicare Wellness Visits. These Wellness Visits have been a great new money maker for us, with minimal physician time and input. For instance if we were able capture all the Wellness Visits for all our Medicare patients this year, that would be on the order of $75K easy additional revenue. And then about $50K yearly thereafter.
Throughout this thread, from the beginning, I have linked FAQ sheets and government sites where I disprove all the balderdash being disseminated by the foes of Obamacare and they continue to just steamroll over them.

The ACA websites are working much better now so the rabid right have pivoted towards a new angle of attack. That is an attempt to sow fear and paranoia that there will not be enough doctors and the doctors that are there will get screwed by Obamacare. All of which is patently false.

I will restate for the umpteenth time, the only doctors getting screwed for treating the truly poor through Medicaid are those that have their practice in republican dominated states that refused to expand their Medicaid programs in accordance with the ACA. They reimburse doctors who treat Medicaid patients below the rate of Medicare. All the rest of the states reimburse doctors for Medicaid billing at the federal medicare level as of January 1st. 2013 through the ACA mandate.

If doctors know they can be reimbursed at the federal medicare level, they will have a lucrative practice and they will flood the market with PCP and familiy physicians. Medicare pays cost plus a percentage of profit.

But as usual, they will steamroll over this post as well, for their agenda is to kill Obama care at whatever cost to the nation and it's people.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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And a prime example of why I hate government programs..

people who have other options, choose to stick the taxpayers with the bills so they can keep their own money, while they moan about others doing the same.

Then why am I still not on Section 8, welfare, food stamps? Why did I go to college to better myself and now pay higher taxes?
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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They can certainly run their kids to a doctor anytime they want when they're on Medicaid -- but yes, when you're perfectly healthy and don't need to go to the hospital, then Medicaid doesn't give you money just because you don't want to pay your way for anything. Get sick though and it's there -- no copay, no premiums, all free.

Which is why we need healthcare reform.
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