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Old 01-02-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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By Robert Rector and Rachel Sheffield

Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox:


Read the full piece here. Executive Summary: Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United States Today?

Does this mean that The War on Poverty is working? Or simply that we've thrown away billions of dollars on social engineering that isn't working?

How's this for an off-the-top-of-my-head redefinition of practical poverty:

The poverty line is the level of income below which a man is generally considered to be unmarriageable.

Oh, and a huge problem in measuring whether the War on Poverty is working...is that this country keeps on importing poverty from other countries. As long as we keep importing poverty, the War on Poverty can never be declared won.
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Old 01-02-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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The poor in 1st world America is equal to upper middle class in the 3rd world IMHO.



bill
And why is that? I'll give you a clue...........The US is not and never was and never will be------a third world country. So these so called comparisons are bogus, coming out of the mouths of those with an agenda.
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Old 01-02-2014, 12:55 PM
 
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If an individual or family was to collect benefits from various social services programs, the monetary benefit from the programs would add up to quite a bit. In my social programs and policies class, I learned that a family collecting SNAP benefits, Section 8 benefits (the mean benefit amount U.S.), Medicaid, and other utility programs collects over $30,000 of services.

There really aren't too many poor people living in poverty in the U.S., there are some, but these services will never be accounted for on the individual/family basis, and will most definitely not be reflected in the census or income per capita.

The homeless are really middle class?
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Old 01-02-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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The vast majority of American have absolutely no idea what true poverty is like!

Even when they visit foreign countries, they only see the tourist parts or those where they conduct business.

The poor in this country are not allowed to live like the picture you posted; homeless camps tend to be torn down by government.
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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The so-called poor today would find the average upper class or middle class home of the 70s to be unbearable. Most so-called poor have cell phones, air conditioning, cable tv, microwave ovens, video game players, clothes they buy new, plenty of food.
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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The poor in this country are not allowed to live like the picture you posted; homeless camps tend to be torn down by government.
The vast majority of the so-called poor aren't living in tents. Millions live in air-condioned, roomy and comfortable Section 8 and other government provided housing.
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:41 PM
 
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The poor in 1st world America is equal to upper middle class in the 3rd world IMHO.



bill
Oh really?

The Homeless Tunnel: People Who Live Under The Streets Of America | Global Research
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:44 PM
 
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The so-called poor today would find the average upper class or middle class home of the 70s to be unbearable. Most so-called poor have cell phones, air conditioning, cable tv, microwave ovens, video game players, clothes they buy new, plenty of food.
A lot of poor live better than lower and middle, middle class. The poor get all kinds of assistance and don't have the debt the lower and middle class do and have pretty much the same things.

The lower and middle class make too much to get help but too little to live better.
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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By Robert Rector and Rachel Sheffield

Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox:


Read the full piece here. Executive Summary: Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United States Today?

Does this mean that The War on Poverty is working? Or simply that we've thrown away billions of dollars on social engineering that isn't working?
Thats a two year old it piece from the Heritiage foundation. Because you can go down to the good will or someone gives you a color TV or an old Atari 2600 that means you are not poor. Its not that hard to get an air-conditioner either. The article couldnt stand on its legs two years ago and cant today.
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:53 PM
 
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The so-called poor today would find the average upper class or middle class home of the 70s to be unbearable. Most so-called poor have cell phones, air conditioning, cable tv, microwave ovens, video game players, clothes they buy new, plenty of food.
I spent Thanksgiving packing and delivering meals for those who are homeless and for some reason can't or won't get to a mission. They're plenty poor.
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