California 2014 Laws Affect Transgenders, Smokers---Again California Leading The Nation With Leftwing Lunacy (illegal, accuse)

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok

I'm not saying they don't have the right. I'm saying what I think they should do. Smoking outside isn't going to really harm anyone but the smoker. It almost seems like more of an appearance thing, which seems more like a campus by campus issue, or just about being controlling.

The bolded is the essence of liberalism.

[afoigrokerkok]

Originally Posted by Harrier

Some of them are, especially on downhill segments of the road.

Why does that matter?

Because they're probably impeding the flow of traffic.

[afoigrokerkok]

Originally Posted by Harrier

The bolded is the essence of liberalism.

Yes, but conservatives do it too. Just on different issues.

This is why I'm conservative on some issues and liberal on a few as well.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok

Because they're probably impeding the flow of traffic.

Key word "probably".

What if they aren't?

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Harrier

There used to be respect for a concept called liberty.

Maybe you have heard about it.

There is a statue symbolizing it in New Jersey.

Running over bicyclists is called liberty?

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok

I agree with the DWI search warrants...

Why?

Judges are already able to sign search warrants.

Why is this redundant law necessary?

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Running over bicyclists is called liberty?

You are the one who mentioned running over bicyclists.

Perhaps you learn how to stay on topic and not argue using straw man claims or red herrings.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Harrier

You are the one who mentioned running over bicyclists.

Perhaps you learn how to stay on topic and not argue using straw man claims or red herrings.

It is the topic. One of the laws in question is about giving some room bicyclists, and you call it loss of liberty.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

It is the topic. One of the laws in question is about giving some room bicyclists, and you call it loss of liberty.

Yes, but it mentions nothing about "running over cyclists".

You made that up yourself.

Hitting another vehicle negligently or maliciously is already against the law.

Besides, in the post to which Harrier responded, you cited the smoking ban, not the motorist/bicyclist law.

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

The landscape is ruined because you can't smoke in school?

Originally Posted by Harrier

There used to be respect for a concept called liberty.

Maybe you have heard about it.

There is a statue symbolizing it in New Jersey.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Harrier

Yes, but it mentions nothing about "running over cyclists".

You made that up yourself.

What liberties are you losing by obeying the bicycle law? The law was created because the bicyclists were being ran over by cars, so obviously it is about running over bicycles.