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Old 01-04-2014, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Did not everyone with an R next to their name support the war? Were the architects of this abysmal failure not Republicans?

Bush = the ultimate failure

Barack Hussein Obama lost Falllujah, not President Bush.
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Old 01-04-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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The Iraq Invasion Archive-George W Bush announces his illegal invasion of Iraq - YouTube
YouTube video? Seriously.

Believing bad intelligence does not equal "lying."
But I won't waste anymore time trying to reason with Democrat shills.

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-04-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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Question: Can America go to war without the president's executive decision?

You must be real ashamed of the Iraq war because instead of boasting about it and taking credit for it, you are trying to blame it entirely on the democrats.
More of your party loyalist sickness. It's beyond your capacity to recognize some of us are not partisan party hacks and actually give both or neither party credit or blame. Bush being the #1 culprit doesn't absolve the D's of their role in supporting the War resolution, speaking for it to gather public support, funding it, and flag-waving while it was the popular thing to do.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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Is there any reason to believe Gore would not have done the same damn thing? One thing that does not change much over the last 50 years when the opposition party gains the executive branch is our insane interventionist foreign policy.
The War on Iraq should shame every American. The Republicans will take the beat for this & that's fine they deserve it, but the Democrats are equally to blame, anything other than this truth is revisionary or delusional. The Democrats, not the Republicans were the ones who decided "regime change" in Iraq was necessary. Bill Clinton signed the

- Bill Clinton sings the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 calling for "regime change" in Iraq & used as the authorization for our attack on Iraq by Bush.
Iraq Liberation Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

- Bill, Hillary, Gore, Kerry, Nancy, Biden, et al detailing the need to "disarm" Saddam Hussein, calling for "regime change", talking about his WMD's, chemical weapons, nuclear program & close ties to terrorism/Al Queda.

Democrats, WMD's & The Iraq War - YouTube
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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"When you were a candidate, I called you a corporation running for the Presidency masquerading as a human being. In time you turned a metaphor into a reality. As a corporation, you express no remorse, no shame, no compassion and a resistance to admit anything other than that you have done nothing wrong."- Ralph

'The Country You Destroyed': A Letter to George W. Bush | Common Dreams
I like Ralph.

He seems to be a people person, though I still think he must have taken a payoff from Volkswagon to destroy the Corvair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvair_engine

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Old 01-04-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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YouTube video? Seriously.

Believing bad intelligence does not equal "lying."
But I won't waste anymore time trying to reason with Democrat shills.

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That wasn't Bush talking...seriously? Unbelievable that the right wing is still trying to erase the Bush years and the big smelly dump he left behind that will FOREVER be his legacy.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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Is there any reason to believe Gore would not have done the same damn thing? One thing that does not change much over the last 50 years when the opposition party gains the executive branch is our insane interventionist foreign policy.
Gore would have been unlikely to fill his cabinet with PNAC goons. But of course you know that.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why are you perpetuating a falsity that has already been debunked here multiple times?
It is the proven truth.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Barack Hussein Obama lost Falllujah, not President Bush.
Bush lost Iraq the second he invaded. It was always a lost war, and he is to blame.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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- Bill Clinton sings the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 calling for "regime change" in Iraq & used as the authorization for our attack on Iraq by Bush.
Iraq Liberation Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

- Bill, Hillary, Gore, Kerry, Nancy, Biden, et al detailing the need to "disarm" Saddam Hussein, calling for "regime change", talking about his WMD's, chemical weapons, nuclear program & close ties to terrorism/Al Queda.

Democrats, WMD's & The Iraq War - YouTube
You can express a sincere desire for regime change without launching a massive invasion and occupation. Doing that was stupid. And for Americans to be so caught up in the pro-war agitprop fed to them by media that completely abandoned their duty to critically examine what they in turn were fed, that was shameful.

Botching the occupation completely was just the cherry on the sh.t sundae. Once the magnitude of the problem of governing Iraq became clear, everybody with enough seniority to do so got the h.ll away and twentysomethings in the Foreign Office were suddenly shouldered with tasks they had no chance in hell of pulling off.

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