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( regarding your first sentence )...............do you post similar remarks when every weatherman on the global warming band wagon points to hotter than normal weather to justify proof of global warming ?
Yes, I would - it's equally as silly of an argument. Heat waves have occurred... well... since forever.
No, I understand the difference between weather and climate, and the concept of statistics. Using a cold wave to disprove global warming, or a heat wave to disprove global cooling, or anything of the sort don't understand basic science and probably shouldn't have graduated from 8th grade.
While I am in agreement with you, the bold is frequently seen in the media, at least here in the Denver area.
We are living in an interglacial period, and be thankful we are. Otherwise, we'd have not had the extra resources available to build a civilization that makes this debate even possible. I live right now in an region that was well covered in ice some short 7500 years ago.
The cycle deniers point to this year being "among the 5 warmest on record" or the sea ice being the 4th smallest on record....so that should tell you that we may have reached the warmer peak and we are heading back the other way. Or not. It's nature and it will do as it will. It has been warmer and it has been cooler and it will return to those states whether Canute shouts at the tide or not.
I used to believe the carbon/global warming theory, until I started some independent study. What I found was that we could turn the corner from interglacial to glacial in a span of decades, or possibly a decade, and while it's fairly easy to see what causes the shift to glacial it isn't as clear what causes the shift back.
If they has achieved the Kyoto goals in 1997, you can damn well bet the cycle deniers would be pointing to these atmospheric events they now dismiss as "weather" as proof they had saved the "climate".
Fox News found to be a major driving force behind global warming denial
American consumers of conservative media like Fox News distrust climate scientists and don't believe the planet is warming
The results suggest that conservative media consumption (specifically Fox News and Rush Limbaugh) decreases viewer trust in scientists, which in turn decreases belief that global warming is happening. In contrast, consumption of non-conservative media (specifically ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NPR, The New York Times, and The Washington Post) increases consumer trust in scientists, and in turn belief that global warming is happening.
The study also examined previous research on this issue and concluded that the conservative media creates distrust in scientists through five main methods:
1) Presenting contrarian scientists as "objective" experts while presenting mainstream scientists as self-interested or biased.
2) Denigrating scientific institutions and peer-reviewed journals.
3) Equating peer-reviewed research with a politically liberal opinion.
4) Accusing climate scientists of manipulating data to fund research projects.
5) Characterizing climate science as a religion. Media Matters provides examples of Fox News engaging in all five of these tactics.
I think instead of liberals trying to deny it's cold, they should be exclaiming this is proof their Obama is the Messiah. He's solved the global warming and now temperatures in some places are 40 to 50 degrees below average.
I think instead of liberals trying to deny it's cold, they should be exclaiming this is proof their Obama is the Messiah. He's solved the global warming and now temperatures in some places are 40 to 50 degrees below average.
Talking about climate change with people that STILL think its measured by the latest weather forecast is a waste of time.
Moving on....
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