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View Poll Results: Do you support life equality?
Yes, I support the equal right to life for all. 42 53.16%
No, I do not support the equal right to life for all. 37 46.84%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-18-2014, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You most certainly did.
Harrier said that the responsibility of the parents to protect their children, rather than abdicate that responsibility to the government, is important, and he in no way placed all of the responsibility on the parents, leaving none for the pedophile to not engage in deviant actions, which is what you tried to say that Harrier said.

Do not put words in Harrier's mouth.

Argue based on the truth or leave.

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You said it is the parent's fault if their child is abused by a pedophile.....so what difference does it make what the catholic church does......it's all on the parents according to you.
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Old 01-18-2014, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Harrier said that the responsibility of the parents to protect their children, rather than abdicate that responsibility to the government, is important, and he in no way placed all of the responsibility on the parents, leaving none for the pedophile to not engage in deviant actions, which is what you tried to say that Harrier said.

Do not put words in Harrier's mouth.

Argue based on the truth or leave.
How about you follow your own advice?

As far as your attempt to wiggle out of what you said......BIG FAT FAIL.
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Old 01-18-2014, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The government(which is all of us) currently has the blood of 57 million and counting persons on their hands due to Roe v Wade.

Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973

It is not stepping in on those children's behalf.

Roe v Wade makes it difficult for someone to intervene to protect these human lives, and whenever someone does, the left screams "bloody murder"(quite ironically).

Roe v Wade is bad adjudication. It needs to be repealed, and the decision should return to the individual states.

Abortion laws fall under the limitations provided by the Tenth Amendment.

Then people truly could be free to protect these innocent lives.
As if it would make any difference to you if individual states upheld Roe v Wade.
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Old 01-18-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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How about you follow your own advice?

As far as your attempt to wiggle out of what you said......BIG FAT FAIL.
Harrier uses that advice.

You are now telling lies about Harrier and ought to leave the thread.

Harrier did not say what you claimed.

You twisted his words around and your pathetic dishonesty = FAIL.

Own up to your lie, call it a mistake, or leave the thread.

Do not ever put words in Harrier's mouth again.
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Old 01-18-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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As if it would make any difference to you if individual states upheld Roe v Wade.
Harrier would not support their decision but he would give his life to defend their right to make such a decision.
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Harrier uses that advice.

You are now telling lies about Harrier and ought to leave the thread.

Harrier did not say what you claimed.

You twisted his words around and your pathetic dishonesty = FAIL.

Own up to your lie, call it a mistake, or leave the thread.

Do not ever put words in Harrier's mouth again.
Playing word games is not going to change what you said.

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Pedophiles wouldn't have victims if parents(whom are seemingly deemed irrelevant

by the left) would do their job and protect and educate their children,
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then abdicating such responsibilities to the government.
There it is.....plain as day......you said it.

I did not put words in your mouth, I have nothing to apologize for and I have as much right to post in this thread as you do.

And you, of all people, have no business complaining about people twisting words. You do it to other posters on a regular basis. Plenty of examples of that right here in this thread.
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Playing word games is not going to change what you said.



There it is.....plain as day......you said it.

I did not put words in your mouth, I have nothing to apologize for and I have as much right to post in this thread as you do.

And you, of all people, have no business complaining about people twisting words. You do it to other posters on a regular basis. Plenty of examples of that right here in this thread.
This is what you claimed that Harrier said, which is much different than what Harrier actually said.

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You said it is the parent's fault if their child is abused by a pedophile.....so what difference does it make what the catholic church does......it's all on the parents according to you.
Harrier did not put all the responsibility on the parents, he said that the protecting children is an important responsibility of parents that should not be abdicated to the government.

He said in a later post that the responsibility to protect children falls upon all people.

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That may be, but the church has the power to remove a priest from such a position when they find out about certain activities.

From what Harrier understands, several Catholic church units failed to do so.

They shirked their duty.

The point is that every person is responsible for being vigilant concerning the safety of a child, especially their parents, and such responsibility should not be palmed off to the government.
Not only are you perpetuating your original lie, you are now adding to the slander by falsely claiming that Harrier has twisted words of other people in this thread.

Harrier gets that you don't like him - that is fine.

That does not give you the right to tell lies about him and make defamatory accusations.

Seriously, if you cannot be honest, then you should not be on this thread.

You lied and you know it.

Either apologize, call it a mistake, or leave the thread.

You have shot any credibility that you ever had all to pieces.

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Old 01-19-2014, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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^^^Thanks for pointing out how you tried to backpedal.

Now, here is an example of you twisting MY words.

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We should live like savages?

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A person who defends themselves is a savage?
Nothing to apologize for, not apologizing, not leaving this thread.
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Old 01-19-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Now, here is an example of you twisting MY words.






Nothing to apologize for, not apologizing, not leaving this thread.
Harrier asked a question - he did not misrepresent what you said as you did with Harrier.

You do owe Harrier an apology and if you cannot cease being dishonest then, yes, you do need to leave the thread.
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:53 AM
 
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It did allow for the destruction of human life - FACT.

Murder is a legal term - so you can correctly say that abortion is technically not murder, but such a position is intellectually dishonest and ignores a broader truth.

And that's the question you skirt time and again.


It's not MURDER because we do not assign the same value to the fetus as we do the already-born child.


And you can't even come out yourself and say that you would support the same penalties for women who abort their fetus as those who murder their one year old in a "life equality" paradigm.



If it's "life equality," that is the logical conclusion. It's actually the ONLY conclusion if "life begins at conception."


Yet I surmise that even you can see the problems with that viewpoint - and can guess the looming increase in prison population. There's someone being intellectually dishonest here. The question is whether it's on purpose or that you just aren't even comprehending the consequences of your own viewpoint?
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