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Old 01-05-2014, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How can the war on drugs be having any positive effect when the drop in cocaine use is complemented by a steep increase in the abuse of prescription pills and heroin? So if the former coke sniffers decide to trade their habit for a smack habit, we've won the war on drugs? And more young people than ever are using marijuana, and in higher numbers among the youngest age brackets.
The 40% drop in cocaine use (and meth) if far larger that the increase in heroin users. Only 0/3% of drug users use heroin. The net result is dramatic decline in use of illegal drugs. The prescription drug problem is something else, because they are actually LEGAL, and therefore mostly outside the war on drugs. We can't ban life saving medication. There has to be other ways to limit the abuses.

 
Old 01-05-2014, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The 40% drop in cocaine use (and meth) if far larger that the increase in heroin users. Only 0/3% of drug users use heroin. The net result is dramatic decline in use of illegal drugs. The prescription drug problem is something else, because they are actually LEGAL, and therefore mostly outside the war on drugs. We can't ban life saving medication. There has to be other ways to limit the abuses.
There are probably more illegal prescription drugs on the street than legal ones in pharmacies. Pills get smuggled in from around the world as well as cocaine and heroin.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 05:32 PM
 
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The 40% drop in cocaine use (and meth) if far larger that the increase in heroin users. Only 0/3% of drug users use heroin. The net result is dramatic decline in use of illegal drugs. The prescription drug problem is something else, because they are actually LEGAL, and therefore mostly outside the war on drugs. We can't ban life saving medication. There has to be other ways to limit the abuses.
Not only that but it's stigmatized a s a "gentleman's hustle" according to law enforcement Here in NYC, I believe selling it is a misdemeanor whereas any sale of crack/cocaine (in any amount) is a felony. It also doesn't carry the Rockefeller draconian drug sentences in NYC that crack/cocaine would. The gain financially is extremely high with a substantive reduction in the risk of prosecution and long term prison sentences.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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There are probably more illegal prescription drugs on the street than legal ones in pharmacies. Pills get smuggled in from around the world as well as cocaine and heroin.
Actually only a small percentage (5%) of prescription pills are sold on the streets.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The 40% drop in cocaine use (and meth) if far larger that the increase in heroin users. Only 0/3% of drug users use heroin. The net result is dramatic decline in use of illegal drugs.
Interesting how the general decline of illegal drugs has been going on while the number of states legalizing medical marijuana has been going up, all the while opponents said don't be doing that. Marijuana is a gateway drug!
 
Old 01-05-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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There are probably more illegal prescription drugs on the street than legal ones in pharmacies. Pills get smuggled in from around the world as well as cocaine and heroin.
American made prescription drugs are sold much cheaper in countries outside the U.S.

Then they are smuggled back in for a significant street profit.

Therapeutic medications.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 06:32 PM
 
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Actually only a small percentage (5%) of prescription pills are sold on the streets.

then explain how does America consume 8o percent of the worlds opiate pain killers,, must be one hell of a lot of corrupt doctors out there righting up bogus prescriptions..
 
Old 01-05-2014, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Actually only a small percentage (5%) of prescription pills are sold on the streets.
That we know of. Pills are also manufactured in other countries and smuggled in here. Mexico, Bangladesh, and India all have huge pharmaceutical factories.
 
Old 01-05-2014, 06:40 PM
 
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The 40% drop in cocaine use (and meth) if far larger that the increase in heroin users. Only 0/3% of drug users use heroin. The net result is dramatic decline in use of illegal drugs. The prescription drug problem is something else, because they are actually LEGAL, and therefore mostly outside the war on drugs. We can't ban life saving medication. There has to be other ways to limit the abuses.

ya American consuming 80 percent of life saving opiate pain killers, ya right we are not talking heart meds here we are talking pain meds..

legal pain killers are illegal in the wrong hands.. their is no way in hell America could consume 80 percent of the world pain pills!!!! unless we have an epidemic of prescription pain pill popping addicts..
 
Old 01-05-2014, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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then explain how does America consume 8o percent of the worlds opiate pain killers,, must be one hell of a lot of corrupt doctors out there righting up bogus prescriptions..
Who says they are bogus? People whine about pain, and they get the prescriptions. Maybe the doctors guidelines need to be stricter, especially with "pain clinics". 70% of the prescription drugs originate from family and friends, so it seems people get the meds, and only use some of them and then hand them out to their friends.
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