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Old 01-16-2014, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The Government does not want people like your husband (ex-Army) to live to full term.
Well, he is almost 70 and working full time, so it's not a very effective approach, is it?

 
Old 01-16-2014, 04:43 PM
 
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Well, he is almost 70 and working full time, so it's not a very effective approach, is it?
Nam, eh?

Few childhood vaccinations.
 
Old 01-16-2014, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Y'know, I never realized just how stupid the anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists are until I read threads like these.
 
Old 01-16-2014, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Nam, eh?

Few childhood vaccinations.
Yeah, Nam.

Agent Orange concerns him a bit.

Vaccines, nah. Apparently everybody in the Army got revaccinated with everything periodically whether they needed a booster or not, so his total vaccine exposure was way more than any child today gets. I forget how many times he told me he got vaccinated for smallpox, for example. Maybe six?
 
Old 01-16-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The discussion is interesting but if 'facts' and stats ( from both sides) aren't pertinent, they don't help.
Lumping pneumonia in with flu does not in any way represent a statistic to support your side of the issue. For instance..
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In 2006, pneumonia and influenza combined ranked as
the nation’s eighth leading cause of death with 56,326. Pneumonia
consistently accounts for the overwhelming majority of deaths between

the two, as 55,477 people died of pneumonia in 2006.15
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Pneumonia may be the result of many things having nothing to do with the flu.
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Probably a great deal of people with flu end up with pneumonia but that does not excuse insinuating that flu is a substantial contributor to the statistic for the 8th leading cause of death.

" Pneumonia consistently accounts for the overwhelming majority of deaths between
the two, as 55,477 people died of pneumonia " (Out of 56,326)
Please state where you got your epidemiology degree. It's kind of "Epi 101" that flu and pneumonia go together, with pneumonia the secondary infection.
 
Old 01-16-2014, 05:09 PM
 
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This case is a very good example of the toll influenza takes.

. Losing her child was a real tragedy alright...just as it was for these cases...examples of the toll vaccines take. women......Flu Vaccine Caused 3587 US Miscarriages &*Stillbirths | ________________Child Health Safety_________________

http://www.sott.net/article/250722-S...nd-Stillbirths
 
Old 01-16-2014, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Speaking of influenza and pneumonia, giving kids the bacterial pneumonia vaccine actually lowers the risk that adults will get it (that's what herd immunity does, you know), and it actually reduced hospitalizations for influenza (since they did not get bacterial pneumonia on top of flu):

Impact of Pneumococcal Conjugate Vaccination of Infants on Pneumonia and Influenza Hospitalization and Mortality in All Age Groups in the United States

"In the first seasons after PCV [pneumococcal vaccine] introduction, when there were substantial state differences in coverage among <5-year-olds, states with greater coverage had significantly fewer influenza-associated pneumonia hospitalizations among children, suggesting that PCV7 use also reduces influenza-attributable pneumonia hospitalizations."

The current pneumonia vaccine covers twice as many variants as the vaccine in the article.
 
Old 01-16-2014, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Just keep recycling the vaccine myths. Yawn.

How about some facts:

Flu shot safe for pregnant women

"Over a 5 year study period, a total of 8,690 women received a seasonal trivalent inactive influenza vaccine during the first trimester, and delivered babies at the study institution. Some of the key results were:

Women vaccinated during pregnancy were significantly older with more pregnancies than women who declined vaccination.
About 2 percent had a baby with a major birth defect, such as a malformation in the heart or a cleft lip, identical to the rate among almost 77,000 pregnant women who did not get the vaccine.
Women who were vaccinated had lower stillbirth (0.3% compared with 0.6%, P=.006).
Women who were vaccinated had lower neonatal death (0.2% compared with 0.4%, P=.01).
Women who were vaccinated had lower premature delivery rates (5% compared with 6%, P=.004)."

No increase in birth defects, fewer stillbirths, neonatal deaths, and premature births. All of the mothers received the vaccine in the first 14 weeks of the pregnancy.
 
Old 01-16-2014, 08:46 PM
 
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Y'know, I never realized just how stupid the anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists are until I read threads like these.
Sounds like you are due for your weekly mercury and peanut oil shot.
 
Old 01-17-2014, 12:27 AM
 
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Do you get your yearly shot from a multi dose bottle?..you know, the ones with all the mercury?
Heck no, I get the ones with all the horse urine .
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