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Old 01-17-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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There already is one, HPV, and they have VAERS-ed themselves silly on it.
Hepatitis B vaccine, too.

 
Old 01-17-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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Question to anti vaxxers, Hypothetical situation--- A vaccine is developed that can prevent cancer, would you take the shot?

Is it safe? How safe? Is it effective? How effective? What are my risks for developing the cancer? What are my risks from dying from the cancer? Are there any other preventative measures I could take to decrease my chances of getting said cancer?
 
Old 01-17-2014, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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We arent the stupid ones! (We are aware)

 
Old 01-17-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Default Is Flu Vaccine Causing Increase in H1N1 Outbreaks? 5 Year Old Boy Dies from H1N1 Virus, Even Though He Was Vaccinated

'a 5-year-old boy who died from the H1N1 virus in Oregon just after Christmas, even though he and his siblings had received the flu vaccine in November.

During the 2008 – 2009 flu season when the H1N1 vaccine was introduced, Canadians were the first ones to observe that people who received the H1N1 flu vaccine seemed to be sicker than those who did not.

So some Canadian researchers decided to test the H1N1 vaccine against a placebo with ferrets. In their experiment, all the ferrets who received the vaccine were sicker (See: Study finds flu shot really did make people sicker).

Infectious diseases expert Professor Peter Collignon from Australia looked at the data in Canada and Hong Kong from the 2008 – 2009 flu season, and drew similar conclusions: ”What was a bit surprising when we looked at some of the data from Canada and Hong Kong in the last year is that people who have been vaccinated in 2008 with the seasonal or ordinary vaccine seemed to have twice the risk of getting swine flu compared to the people who hadn’t received that vaccine.” (Source.)

They vaccinated “naive” piglets (those that had never been exposed to flu viruses) against the H1N2 influenza strain and later exposed them to the rare H1N1 virus, which is the virus responsible for the 2009 swine flu pandemic.

When the piglets were vaccinated they produced a wide range of antibodies to block the H1N2 virus, but these “cross-reactive” antibodies not only failed to provide protection against the second virus, H1N1, but appeared to actually help the H1N1 virus infiltrate lung tissue and cause more severe symptoms and respiratory system complications such as pneumonia and lung damage. The unvaccinated controls suffered milder pneumonia and fewer other complications. (Source.)

So vaccinating for certain flu strains can actually cause the H1N1 virus to create even more severe complications, such as pneumonia and lung damage, which is exactly what we are seeing here in 2014 with the current H1N1 outbreaks.

Is Flu Vaccine Causing Increase in H1N1 Outbreaks? 5 Year Old Boy Dies from H1N1 Virus, Even Though He Was Vaccinated Month Before | Health Impact News

Study finds flu shot really did make people sicker | Metro
 
Old 01-17-2014, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's definitely terrible that this boy died, but it's just a sad coincidence.

This years vaccination includes vaccination for swine flu.
 
Old 01-17-2014, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Oh my I didn't know we had Monsanto shills here.

As a surgeon, my brother has seen kids die from vaccinations. google it www.mayoclinic.com
 
Old 01-17-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh my I didn't know we had Monsanto shills here.

As a surgeon, my brother has seen kids die from vaccinations. google it www.mayoclinic.com
I never said kids couldn't die from vaccinations.

In this case, the boy died from swine flu and OP is alleging that the vaccine only covered another type of flu but also caused the swine flu. However, the vaccine covered the swine flu. It simply is not 100% effective. It's tragic, but we can't protect everyone with 100% certainty from everything.
 
Old 01-17-2014, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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NO ONE who is interested in vaccinations and its side effects should be reading here and trusting your opinion.

"Its tragic...but". Oh please.

The shill manual isn't working anymore. Intelligent people research.

Vaccination info:


medical doctors against vaccines | International Medical Council on Vaccination

Call your dr. I'm caring for a person with cancer right now. His surgeon was relieved he didn't get vaccinated. "opinion forums" internet= disinfo.

CALL your M.D.
 
Old 01-17-2014, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Not all strains are included in the vaccine, here is info on how the strains are selected:

CDC - Selecting Viruses for the Seasonal Influenza Vaccine | Seasonal Influenza (Flu)
 
Old 01-17-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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Oh my I didn't know we had Monsanto shills here.

As a surgeon, my brother has seen kids die from vaccinations. google it www.mayoclinic.com
WTF does monsanto have to do with this? Good lord
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