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Old 01-18-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Does anybody know the answer to this question? I'm not asking for speculation or guesses although a "maybe" or "sometimes" is acceptable if based on real knowledge.
If one goes into the hospital with a respiratory problem or actual pneumonia, are they tested for flu if they say yes when asked if they are current with their flu shot?

 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Does anybody know the answer to this question? I'm not asking for speculation or guesses although a "maybe" or "sometimes" is acceptable if based on real knowledge.
If one goes into the hospital with a respiratory problem or actual pneumonia, are they tested for flu if they say yes when asked if they are current with their flu shot?
If they have symptoms of flu or their docs are otherwise suspicious that they may have flu, e.g. exposure to flu, yes. My husband was recently in the hospital for emergency surgery and he was not asked if he had had a flu shot.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If they have symptoms of flu or their docs are otherwise suspicious that they may have flu, e.g. exposure to flu, yes. My husband was recently in the hospital for emergency surgery and he was not asked if he had had a flu shot.
Always? Even if they are current on their shots?
Do you know this as a routine set procedure for all hospitals?
I am curious about the possible lack of reporting as flu, when a 'mild' or undiagnosed flu case had advanced to a pneumonia.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:48 AM
 
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Always? Even if they are current on their shots?
Do you know this as a routine set procedure for all hospitals?
I am curious about the possible lack of reporting as flu, when a 'mild' or undiagnosed flu case had advanced to a pneumonia.
What do you mean "even if they are current on their shots"? You don't submit an immunization record when you are admitted to the hospital.

Why are you bugging me about this? I thought you were going to drop the flu/pneumonia connection?

I don't work in a hospital; I work in a doctor's office. We test anyone who sets off any suspicion they might have the flu, e.g. symptoms, history, whether or not they had a flu vaccine, which is one of the questions asked. There would be no reason to test someone who comes in with a broken leg for flu unless s/he had some symptoms which make the doctors suspicious.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What do you mean "even if they are current on their shots"? You don't submit an immunization record when you are admitted to the hospital.

Why are you bugging me about this? I thought you were going to drop the flu/pneumonia connection?

I don't work in a hospital; I work in a doctor's office. We test anyone who sets off any suspicion they might have the flu, e.g. symptoms, history, whether or not they had a flu vaccine, which is one of the questions asked. There would be no reason to test someone who comes in with a broken leg for flu unless s/he had some symptoms which make the doctors suspicious.
I didn't address the question to you specifically.
Perhaps if you go back and read the original question you'll see whether or not there was even any reason for you to reply.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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I didn't address the question to you specifically.
Perhaps if you go back and read the original question you'll see whether or not there was even any reason for you to reply.
Right. Mostly it was because you quoted me in your post and and said "DoYOU (emphasis mine) know. . . "
 
Old 01-18-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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Right. Mostly it was because you quoted me in your post and and said "DoYOU (emphasis mine) know. . . "
Duh...I quoted you in that post because you replied and I was trying to pin your answer down better.
As it turns out, not surprisingly, you answered even though yours was the kind of reply I pointedly said I wasn't looking for....one that couldn't answer the question as I asked it.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 09:19 AM
 
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Duh...I quoted you in that post because you replied and I was trying to pin your answer down better.
As it turns out, not surprisingly, you answered even though yours was the kind of reply I pointedly said I wasn't looking for....one that couldn't answer the question as I asked it.
LOL! What an excuse!

Then quote someone else's post the next time. Who in this thread is a nurse/doctor that works in a hospital?
 
Old 01-18-2014, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Does anybody know the answer to this question? I'm not asking for speculation or guesses although a "maybe" or "sometimes" is acceptable if based on real knowledge.
If one goes into the hospital with a respiratory problem or actual pneumonia, are they tested for flu if they say yes when asked if they are current with their flu shot?
Since we are in flu season, anyone sick enough to go to the hospital who has respiratory problems or pneumonia will probably be tested for flu. However, since the test may not be positive in everyone with flu, many people will be treated as if they have it anyway if the clinical picture looks like flu. Also, if a specific ER has tested a lot of people and is getting a high rate of positives, they may just skip the test at this point in the season.

Some folks who have been vaccinated will still get the flu, so having the vaccine does not rule out the diagnosis.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Also worth bearing in mind that when incidence of the flu increases in a geographic area people all rush out to get a flu shot, where they may have already been exposed before getting the shot.

What happens after hospital admission depends on the physical exam and the history, most of the time that will include history of recent visits and shots, but each situation is different.
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